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Old 09-09-2009, 01:19 PM   #21
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...the Astronauts should have realised they were on earth the moment they heard the apes speak English.
Are you telling me that Kirk and the Enterprise never left Earth? Wow! I never got even a hint of THAT plot twist. Move over, Bobby Ewing's death on "Dallas."

Actually, you've got a great point, there... and one that CAN be considered WITHIN the plot. Everyone on Star Trek speaking English falls into the "Willful Suspension of Disbelief" OUTSIDE of the storyline. But, your point could have been made within the story as one of the characters has an "Aha!" moment and figures out instantly where he is.

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Old 09-09-2009, 01:55 PM   #22
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Default "...no MOON" in Planet Of The Apes 1968 movie!


It is hard to surpass this surprise ending(it is Earth) from the original PLANET OF THE APES 1968 movie! Although they never explained why Earth's Moon was gone.
"...no MOON" in Earth's orbit anymore in Planet Of The Apes 1968 movie and sequel Beneath The Planet Of The Apes 1970 movie....

After the A.N.S.A. Spaceships launched in 1972 perhaps SPACE:1999 "Breakaway" in 1999 is the explanation .

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Old 09-09-2009, 10:12 PM   #23
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It is hard to surpass this surprise ending(it is Earth) from the original PLANET OF THE APES 1968 movie!
Agreed - this must rank as one of THE best ever sc-fi shock twist film endings. The sound of the crashing waves was also a superb choice rather than extra soundtrack music. Sends a chill down my spine every time I see that scene.
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:18 PM   #24
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“Why all the remakes?”

It really boils down to the tendency of children of the Sixties – children whose sensibilities were formed in what we call the “Sixties” (parts of the 1960s and 1970s, really) – to rebel against their parents, even hate their parents, or at the very least to believe that they can IMPROVE UPON EVERYTHING THEIR PARENTS DID.
Interesting point. Applies to music also.
eg my daughter loves 'rave / techno' music, but many of those tracks take samples from 1980s records and speed them up with a drum beat etc.(yes - Mike Oldfield "MoonLight Shadow" I'm talking to you). When I point this out, all I get in reply is "yes but it sounds so much better now".
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:29 PM   #25
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I think a lot of directors admire the original and wish they had directed them. Doing a remake is often a wish fulfilment vanity project. Unless the subject story is approached in a truly original way, it'll always look like a shadow of the former. I think Peter Jackson has fallen into this trap with King Kong and The Dambusters, neither of which needed revisiting.
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:52 PM   #26
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I think a lot of directors admire the original and wish they had directed them. Doing a remake is often a wish fulfilment vanity project. Unless the subject story is approached in a truly original way, it'll always look like a shadow of the former. I think Peter Jackson has fallen into this trap with King Kong and The Dambusters, neither of which needed revisiting.
Are you kidding ? !
I think that the Peter Jackson remake of King Kong was an absolute masterpiece (even better than the original or the 1970's remake) -
stunning period city scenery
fantastic tense 1 hour build up before Kong even makes an appearance
great scenes with Naomi Watts and Kong that left the viewer feeling real empathy for Kong
humour - eg that piece of rock falling on Kong's head
extra action by chucking in a load of dinosaurs into the mix
and Jack Black in one of his best performances ever to date.
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Old 10-09-2009, 08:34 AM   #27
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Conversely, more than an hour of nothingness before getting on the ship (I found myself inwardly shouting "get on with it), crocodillian T-Rex that would've shredded Kong and ripped his arms out in less than twenty seconds, a cartoon stampede in a canyon that would've seen most of the humans squashed in moments, T-Rex's desire to eat Anne Darrow overcoming it's instinct to simply survive when tangled in the vines, the sudden absence of any noise or sirens afte Kong trashes New York to go ice skating on a pond that must have had ice at least two feet thick....

Sometimes less is more.
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:26 AM   #28
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Agreed DX, the film would have been twice as good at half the length.
Still, there's lots to admire, the FX are gobsmacking in places. The sequence where the men are trapped in the bug infested ravine and picked off by fanged worms is utterly nightmarish. Makes me shudder just thinking about it.
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The sequence where the men are trapped in the bug infested ravine and picked off by fanged worms is utterly nightmarish. Makes me shudder just thinking about it.
That scene was absolutely hilarious - I remember having a good old chuckle into my popcorn at the cinema at that particular scene - especially when that guy's whole head gets sucked in.
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Old 10-09-2009, 03:10 PM   #30
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Hilarious????

I'd be more likely to chuck up in my popcorn. Maybe I'm a sensitive soul!

Then again some people claim to laugh at The Exorcist.

So, the ravine scene: nightmarish or hilarious, let's have a vote...
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Good film making or gratuitous schlock?
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Old 13-09-2009, 01:23 PM   #32
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Default SPACE:1999 new comic book-graphic novel series in 2010?

SPACE:1999 new comic book-graphic novel series in 2010?
http://www.myspace.com/project091399091309

Lets talk about this remake...will it be exactly based upon the original SPACE:1999?


ETF member dilbertman has thread about it FULL MOON RISING.

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Old 14-09-2009, 07:00 AM   #33
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SPACE:1999 new comic book-graphic novel series in 2010?
http://www.myspace.com/project091399091309

Lets talk about this remake...will it be exactly based upon the original SPACE:1999?


ETF member dilbertman has thread about it FULL MOON RISING.
Well its a graphic novel series and normally they're rarther faithful, the poster looks cool.
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Old 16-09-2009, 10:11 PM   #34
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It has been pointed out in the past that the Astronauts should have realised they were on earth the moment they heard the apes speak English.

That apart from the abundant clues from uniquely evolved flora and fauna, the moon, star patterns etc.
Its called suspension of disbelief.According to the theory, suspension of disbelief is an essential ingredient in the enjoyment of many science fiction films and television series.

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Old 27-09-2009, 11:33 PM   #35
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With novels like Foundation (A C Clarke) why do they need to remakes?
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Old 27-09-2009, 11:37 PM   #36
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Well its a graphic novel series and normally they're rarther faithful, the poster looks cool.
If this is real this would be awsome.
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