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Old 09-02-2010, 01:06 PM   #1
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With the demise of PE and the 'imminent' release of the sixteen12 Hawk. The wooden models advertised on ebay are currently the only made up craft commercially available. At £140 delivered the 14 inch Hawk is looking like seriously good value.

Does anyone have any experience good or bad of these people?
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Old 09-02-2010, 01:15 PM   #2
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Can't say I've seen any yet that even came close to having me put my hand in my pocket.
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Old 10-02-2010, 09:31 PM   #3
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So I'll just post this to try to get a response

Sorry guys.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:58 AM   #4
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Hi alfalfa

I don't have any experience with these guys or their methods and accuracy, but I can tell you that from what I know of the Philippines the price for that Hawk probably equates to about two month's salary for a salesgirl so someone working in a woodworking shop is likely to get a lot less than that!

That £140 is likely to be 139 times more than his daily wage.

By the way, my wife is from the Philippines, so I have some knowledge of the country.
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:05 AM   #5
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Hi sliuman

I thought as much myself. Suppose there's 2 ways of looking at it. Am I exploiting the cheap labour or am I helping to put some food on the model makers table by paying them to provide a service?

I can only hope that they are getting, locally, a fair wage. On balance its probably better to spend the money there than not to.
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Old 11-02-2010, 10:30 AM   #6
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As far as I have seen, the models are not (and some not at all) accurate to the original craft, but still they can look good. For instance I have seen a Treehawk which really looks nice but it is not 100% accurate. Maybe Skyfullofstars can give you some input. Cheers.
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:51 PM   #7
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Does anyone have any experience good or bad of these people?
I’ve got a couple of wooden Eagles (one is on my av) and must confess that I’m not too displeased with them (wasn't excepting replicas, and no one should!).
Service was fast and courteous with excellent comms.
See thread:

http://www.eagletransporter.com/foru...oversial+eagle

Jorge
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Old 11-02-2010, 08:51 PM   #8
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So I'll just post this to try to get a response

Sorry guys.
Hi all
I got some gliders from the Philippines. They did a good work. Here you see the 16” for a 44” eagle and 32 “ glider for my 88” eagle. Before I ordered them I made some home work and calculated the shape from the available pictures I found on the net. I never saw a studio glider, so everything about shape is a kind of guessing. The shape will not be 100% accurate, but I don’t care about that. I had a very good communication and the people were very friendly and excellent to deal with. They send you pics before the model goes out and ask you if it is ok. But you must give them as much information as possible when asking for a customized model. I personally would not order a complex model like an eagle, hawk etc. Too complicated to have a good result, if you want a detailed model. And the possibilities with wood alone are naturally limited. And you must consider the price - model relationship. Better to do these complex models from a kit or by scratch. But with airplane like shapes f. e. - what the glider is – and what is indeed their major business, it works well.
I got the gliders as you see them. I will do the rest of the paneling and on the bigger one cut off the top (cockpit) and make a lighted one in brass or acrylic sheet (don’t know yet) with pilots inside. I’m actually forcing my 44”ers. Every other project is for later. I also join some pics of the glider sitting on top of an 44” eagle under construction (parts from Bill – tope frame, cages, James Small – passenger pod, my acrylic side pods, one side booster from Paul Gray (the only I actually have – more will come) , CM bought from an Ebay auction quite a time ago, leg parts from Chris Trice, walkways – James Small kit. I have parts ready for 4 eagles and more.
I also have a Treehawk from Scalemodelcompany, which looks pretty good, shape is ok. Nice paint job. I love it.
The models you see are from Scalemodelcompany and buildersience (big 32” glider and Glider29).

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...tviewkompr.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...view1kompr.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...le/bglrear.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...gle/bgltop.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../bglfkompr.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...le/bglside.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...pviewkompr.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...view2kompr.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...frontkompr.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...anglekompr.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...wglcenter2.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...view44wgl2.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...view44wgl1.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...view44wgl2.jpg
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:19 PM   #9
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Thanks Skyfullofstars. That was really really helpful. Your gliders look great I was lucky enough to see it at the Blackpool Exhibition. Your Eagle is awesome especially the CM.
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:13 AM   #10
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I thought as much myself. Suppose there's 2 ways of looking at it. Am I exploiting the cheap labour or am I helping to put some food on the model makers table by paying them to provide a service?

I can only hope that they are getting, locally, a fair wage. On balance its probably better to spend the money there than not to.
I've suddenly found myself getting a lot more familiar with this country that I honestly did not know a lot about. We've got friends there and now my daughter's fiancée is originally from there. Pricing is interesting, as labor can be cheep, but materials, such as wood, can be expensive. So getting work done on your house might not be that expenisve, but the materials used might seem a bit excessive.

Those replicas don't look too shabby, as long as you aren't looking for Jim Small perfection...but that's Canada and a whole 'nother story.
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I've suddenly found myself getting a lot more familiar with this country that I honestly did not know a lot about. We've got friends there and now my daughter's fiancée is originally from there. Pricing is interesting, as labor can be cheep, but materials, such as wood, can be expensive. So getting work done on your house might not be that expenisve, but the materials used might seem a bit excessive.

Those replicas don't look too shabby, as long as you aren't looking for Jim Small perfection...but that's Canada and a whole 'nother story.
I've met Philippinos on cruise ships and in private hospitals in the UK. Can't say I've met one I didn't like, charming people.

But the whole other story about Canada???
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