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Old 10-09-2010, 05:54 PM   #1
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Is this the end for 1612, i have had a email from them today saying that the interceptor is not going to happen ,as this is the second one to be cancelled , what is left in the pipeline from them. I know that they havent always been that great but who else feeds our habit, I for one would be gutted if this was the case.
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Old 10-09-2010, 06:06 PM   #2
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Well, there's a surprise. I'm sure the launch pad will be next for the chop.

What was the excuse for this one?
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Old 10-09-2010, 09:51 PM   #3
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I don't doubt what you say Jim though they really should get it up on their site as it's still showing as going ahead and prompting people to pre-order with a 100 deposit, it also claims that the UFO is the next studio build. (Fri 10th Sept 2250 hrs BST)
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:47 AM   #4
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This business never ceases to amaze me. This is a long way from the heady days of Product Enterprise. I'm still hoping that launch pad comes together.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:32 AM   #5
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How long before another company name change?
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:53 AM   #6
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the 1612 site is rubbish, it took them 2/3 months to take down the hawk draw info .
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:59 AM   #7
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So what ARE they actually producing now then ? If they were to go back to the successful 12" range and expand it to other Anderson craft I am sure they would achieve the quantity of sales required to generate some profits. Perhaps it's a situation that no suitable 'master' kits exist from which to pattern new replicas, so these would have to be crafted from scratch...

The market for their larger scale resin replicas is very limited at the prices being charged - especially with the accuracy issues they have had and also the current economic situation in the world - so I don't see these being sustainable as it stands.
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:33 AM   #8
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Info 1612....

Everything Chris noted above is very true.

I have to ask whether they were trying to commercialise a niche market that simply didn't exist in a sustainable form i.e. it was too small a customer base for the product at that price level.

I stand by what I said earlier that if Steve Walker's 1612 produced just the parts he would have a massive market as a kit seller. This would work for Eagles, Hawks, Mobiles, SPV's you name it....

Steve when you read this and I know you do, consider this carefully. If the price was more in keeping with a top end kit and you allowed contributions from the people here you would have a world beating product and I am sure the forum would support you.

This is the strongest way forward I am convinced of it.

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Old 11-09-2010, 04:56 PM   #9
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Could you see them going for it though Bernie ? It would be great for both the Company and the Customer, people would be able to get what they need at an affordable price and I'm sure that if they approached the correct people the results would be unbeatable ! Studio scaled kits from them would go down well in my book , especially if they were to release something from all of the major Gerry Anderson shows.
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Old 11-09-2010, 06:04 PM   #10
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Perhaps if they approached someone other than Fyffes for a TB2...
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:10 PM   #11
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Smile Here's an idea....

Maybe someone could approach them to buy whatever tooling they have with a view to doing just that Paul.

Of course they could be absolutely fine and changing course for a valid reason.

Still I wish them the best and ask on behalf of MkIXHawk and others to keep the fruit out of model making.

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Old 01-11-2010, 11:15 AM   #12
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what amazes me, as a casual lurker around here, (but genuine fan of Anderson's shows and hardware especially the eagles) is that the 12 inch eagles are going for 60+ on a regular basis on ebay. I've seen the gift set sell for half the price of a 23" eagle! I have to believe at that sort of price/demand that the 12 inch models must be a better bet for a manufacturer than the large scale ships, which i've NEVER seen sell for more than their original price. i got my 23inch eagle for half that, and to be honest, the 12 inchers just feel to me like better repro's of the ship (maybe the colour, maybe the thinner coating of the paint making it look crisper) I think the same scale interceptor is holding value very well too. I'm afraid to think about what i'd pay for a metal swift (Alex Dumas' kit is so beautiful, but beyond my skill)
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:45 AM   #13
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Steeple, I'm sure there are people on this site who would build the "Dumas Swift" for you at a reasonable price.
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:51 PM   #14
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Steeple, I'm sure there are people on this site who would build the "Dumas Swift" for you at a reasonable price.
Ask Jim Small (Small Art Work). I know he is currently building a few of my Swifts for his customers... Maybe he wouldn't mind adding a few more kits to the fleet. And I have a few Swifts in stock ready for an 'emergency' takeoff

Thanks for the comments by the way!

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Old 01-11-2010, 08:09 PM   #15
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uh, oh
i hadn't considered that, that would be awesome. although i'll have to see how much of me is left after the January tax extraction. thanks, so much!
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:42 PM   #16
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Yep, I'd like to send my kit to Jim to build, but I think it would cost a fortune and that's before Hes built the kit!
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