Eagle Heavy Lifter

Outsider · 18-05-2012, 01:42 PM

I've been thinking about designing and building a new type of Eagle transporter - something not seen in the series, but could exist in that world. I wanted to try to make something bigger, something that could move larger payloads. So, my Eagle Heavy Lifter project was born. As the payload body will be larger the nosecone would be wider, so I started with that. In theory there will be three, maybe four seats in there.

Under the cockpit will be a small cargo bay or buggy hold, and the front of the nosecone will eventually open.

I'll update again when I've got more to show - might be a while!

**mars0ne** · 18-05-2012, 06:38 PM

Very cool! I am looking forward to seeing more. What SW are you using, LW?

In the series, I liked how the technology used common interfaces -- that way the Eagle nosecone could be seen docking on the Ultraprobe, and the Eagle could take on different payload pods. It will be interesting to see if you follow that design philosophy. As a heavy lifter, maybe it could take on multiple standard payload pods in series or parallel.

**Captain Sci-Fi** · 18-05-2012, 06:57 PM

This looks promising, like the nosecone idea.

I noticed there were extra fixing points for the frame attachments so looking forward to seeing this grow.

I did think that if extra crew were needed that they may follow the same idea as with trucks, put a "sleeper" cab on the back and perhaps reconfigure the space frames by extending them above and below the longer CM unit.

Steve Gerard · 18-05-2012, 07:37 PM

Outsider interesting work, I will be looking forward to how you progress with this design.

Outsider · 19-05-2012, 09:36 AM

Thanks for the feedback! I'm definitely trying to keep to a modular design, but it might be a different set of modules to the standard Eagle - but made in the same factory. The payload module will be much bigger, perhaps as much as twice the width, and possibly two storeys. I'm working on getting the scale right, but I'm having trouble finding out what the real world dimensions of the Eagle are supposed to be. I've searched the forum but can't find anything conclusive.

Steve Gerard · 19-05-2012, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsider

I'm working on getting the scale right, but I'm having trouble finding out what the real world dimensions of the Eagle are supposed to be. I've searched the forum but can't find anything conclusive.

Here are links to dimensions from a 1977 STARLOG publication:
http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/m...mblueagle2.jpg
http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/p...2starloge.html

EddieL · 20-05-2012, 12:10 AM

Hey, we both had a similar idea!

My Heavy Lift Eagle is larger than the standard Eagle, but nowhere near twice the size. I want it to fit on the existing launch pads.

Mine is still in the concept stage, it will be many months before I have anything to show.

It will be interesting to see what direction yours goes in.

Cheers
Eddie

Outsider · 20-05-2012, 09:29 AM

Thanks, Steve, those links are going to be very useful!

Eddie, The Heavy Lifter should still fit onto the launch pad - just! I need to work out the dimensions for the pad to make sure I've got it all right before I jump too far into it.

Working on the production line idea I'm hoping to use some parts from the Hawk as well as the Eagle.

**DARKVIEW** · 20-05-2012, 10:30 AM

nice render/design and good idea, ld like to see the middle window narrower to loose some of the roundness

**MADsen** · 22-05-2012, 04:27 PM

Hi Outsider...

It looks great... nice work so far...

Looking forward to follow your project....

Outsider · 25-05-2012, 03:53 PM

Thanks, everyone. I'm planning on using the standard leg module, as seen on the standard Eagle, (six of them!) I put together a quick test of the foot mechanism coming out of the housing. The design seems to have intended this to happen, but I've never seen it done before. Most of you know much more about Space 1999 than me, so maybe you can put me right if this has been seen before?

Outsider · 27-05-2012, 06:26 PM

Continuing to block out the shapes. Some of this is rough, and mostly untextured, but I'll tidy it all up once I get the main parts together.

Steve Gerard · 27-05-2012, 07:48 PM

It looks right.

EddieL · 27-05-2012, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsider

Most of you know much more about Space 1999 than me, so maybe you can put me right if this has been seen before?

I'm no expert, but I don't think the suspension has to be completely straight for it to fit into the housing. At least, the way I allow the undercarriage to retract, it doesn't require it. Try leaving it slightly angled and see what you think.

Cheers
Eddie

Glazy · 28-06-2012, 12:17 AM

Neat work so far on this ship !!!

dion1701 · 11-09-2012, 06:07 AM

great concept and terrific work so far.

**Howard** · 11-09-2012, 06:38 AM

Looks great! I'd extend the nose of the CM a little so it's more Eagle like, just to see what it looks like, and perhaps try removing the slats in the centre window.
Can't wait to see more.
Edit: Try cutting a standard Eagle CM down the centre (I did this a few years ago, experimenting) and then add the centre window.
You'll then have thicker bulkhead frames between the standard windows and the centre one, and they should finish almost level.
This will give you a flat area at the front tip of the CM which can be filled with either lights or sensors, removing the egg shape at the tip, and aid the 'look' a little, tying it in with a standard CM and give you a familiar curve to the top and bottom edges when viewed from the front.
I'd tend to retain the angles of the standard walkway cages where the frames form and X, then the interior will naturally be wider. You could add height to them without ruining the look once a spine (I guess that will be more complex and beefed up a little?) is put in place - much in the same way a Hawk 'spine' is narrower and less complex for a smaller craft.

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Roger3d · 15-09-2012, 05:24 PM

thats cool )

i really like the design , consider this added to the crysis 1999 3d mod

i have decided to name your cockpit as " Eagle Howard " and i amending one of my Eagles to your cockpit version later tonight , i will post some pics of my effort once done

Roger

**Howard** · 16-09-2012, 05:48 AM

Many thanks indeed Roger!
I look forward to "Eagle Howard" very much.

Cheers!

Howard.

Roger3d · 16-09-2012, 11:07 AM

Howard , last night i did the nose , its complete , i am just amending my crysis internal Eagle cockpit to fit the " Howard " nose cone , what do you envisage goes into the newly created space in the middle with the new window ? seating , storage space ?

i am hoping to finish the cockpit tonight , and i was thinking of adding in more seating to the nose , so u can have pilots , co pilots , and addiitional passengers up front so to speak , wondering what u envisioned from your end ?

Roger

p.s i will post in a quick pic of the nose in a few mins below )

1st pic is the internal cockpit being worked on as of 2am last night , gonna finish that tonight based on your feedback , once model is complete i will add it to crysis for testing , take a few in game screenshots and show you those too )

the model and pics below have now been officially added to the Crysis 1999 mod , in my thred , and this version Eagle will be part of the Eagle fleet in game )

18-05-2012, 01:42 PM	#1
Outsider Waste Technician Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19	Eagle Heavy Lifter I've been thinking about designing and building a new type of Eagle transporter - something not seen in the series, but could exist in that world. I wanted to try to make something bigger, something that could move larger payloads. So, my Eagle Heavy Lifter project was born. As the payload body will be larger the nosecone would be wider, so I started with that. In theory there will be three, maybe four seats in there. Under the cockpit will be a small cargo bay or buggy hold, and the front of the nosecone will eventually open. I'll update again when I've got more to show - might be a while!

20-05-2012, 10:30 AM	#9
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22-05-2012, 04:27 PM	#10
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11-09-2012, 06:38 AM	#17
Howard Deputy Commander Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seaford, East Sussex. Posts: 822	Looks great! I'd extend the nose of the CM a little so it's more Eagle like, just to see what it looks like, and perhaps try removing the slats in the centre window. Can't wait to see more. Edit: Try cutting a standard Eagle CM down the centre (I did this a few years ago, experimenting) and then add the centre window. You'll then have thicker bulkhead frames between the standard windows and the centre one, and they should finish almost level. This will give you a flat area at the front tip of the CM which can be filled with either lights or sensors, removing the egg shape at the tip, and aid the 'look' a little, tying it in with a standard CM and give you a familiar curve to the top and bottom edges when viewed from the front. I'd tend to retain the angles of the standard walkway cages where the frames form and X, then the interior will naturally be wider. You could add height to them without ruining the look once a spine (I guess that will be more complex and beefed up a little?) is put in place - much in the same way a Hawk 'spine' is narrower and less complex for a smaller craft. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Last edited by Howard; 11-09-2012 at 04:43 PM.

16-09-2012, 11:07 AM	#20
Roger3d Life Support Technician Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hertfordshire , UK , Planet Earth Posts: 93	Howard , last night i did the nose , its complete , i am just amending my crysis internal Eagle cockpit to fit the " Howard " nose cone , what do you envisage goes into the newly created space in the middle with the new window ? seating , storage space ? i am hoping to finish the cockpit tonight , and i was thinking of adding in more seating to the nose , so u can have pilots , co pilots , and addiitional passengers up front so to speak , wondering what u envisioned from your end ? Roger p.s i will post in a quick pic of the nose in a few mins below ) 1st pic is the internal cockpit being worked on as of 2am last night , gonna finish that tonight based on your feedback , once model is complete i will add it to crysis for testing , take a few in game screenshots and show you those too ) the model and pics below have now been officially added to the Crysis 1999 mod , in my thred , and this version Eagle will be part of the Eagle fleet in game ) Last edited by Roger3d; 16-09-2012 at 11:42 AM.

18-05-2012, 06:38 PM	#2
mars0ne Alphan Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3	Very cool! I am looking forward to seeing more. What SW are you using, LW? In the series, I liked how the technology used common interfaces -- that way the Eagle nosecone could be seen docking on the Ultraprobe, and the Eagle could take on different payload pods. It will be interesting to see if you follow that design philosophy. As a heavy lifter, maybe it could take on multiple standard payload pods in series or parallel.

18-05-2012, 06:57 PM	#3
Captain Sci-Fi Commander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South Glos, UK Posts: 4,326	This looks promising, like the nosecone idea. I noticed there were extra fixing points for the frame attachments so looking forward to seeing this grow. I did think that if extra crew were needed that they may follow the same idea as with trucks, put a "sleeper" cab on the back and perhaps reconfigure the space frames by extending them above and below the longer CM unit.

18-05-2012, 07:37 PM	#4
Steve Gerard Medical Officer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 3,320	Outsider interesting work, I will be looking forward to how you progress with this design.

19-05-2012, 09:36 AM	#5
Outsider Waste Technician Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19	Thanks for the feedback! I'm definitely trying to keep to a modular design, but it might be a different set of modules to the standard Eagle - but made in the same factory. The payload module will be much bigger, perhaps as much as twice the width, and possibly two storeys. I'm working on getting the scale right, but I'm having trouble finding out what the real world dimensions of the Eagle are supposed to be. I've searched the forum but can't find anything conclusive.

20-05-2012, 12:10 AM	#7
EddieL Weapons Technician Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 126	Hey, we both had a similar idea! My Heavy Lift Eagle is larger than the standard Eagle, but nowhere near twice the size. I want it to fit on the existing launch pads. Mine is still in the concept stage, it will be many months before I have anything to show. It will be interesting to see what direction yours goes in. Cheers Eddie

20-05-2012, 09:29 AM	#8
Outsider Waste Technician Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19	Thanks, Steve, those links are going to be very useful! Eddie, The Heavy Lifter should still fit onto the launch pad - just! I need to work out the dimensions for the pad to make sure I've got it all right before I jump too far into it. Working on the production line idea I'm hoping to use some parts from the Hawk as well as the Eagle.

25-05-2012, 03:53 PM	#11
Outsider Waste Technician Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19	Thanks, everyone. I'm planning on using the standard leg module, as seen on the standard Eagle, (six of them!) I put together a quick test of the foot mechanism coming out of the housing. The design seems to have intended this to happen, but I've never seen it done before. Most of you know much more about Space 1999 than me, so maybe you can put me right if this has been seen before?

27-05-2012, 06:26 PM	#12
Outsider Waste Technician Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19	Continuing to block out the shapes. Some of this is rough, and mostly untextured, but I'll tidy it all up once I get the main parts together.

27-05-2012, 07:48 PM	#13
Steve Gerard Medical Officer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 3,320	It looks right.

28-06-2012, 12:17 AM	#15
Glazy Weapons Technician Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Posts: 126	Neat work so far on this ship !!!

11-09-2012, 06:07 AM	#16
dion1701 Waste Technician Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Fremont, Ohio USA Posts: 18	great concept and terrific work so far.

15-09-2012, 05:24 PM	#18
Roger3d Life Support Technician Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hertfordshire , UK , Planet Earth Posts: 93	thats cool ) i really like the design , consider this added to the crysis 1999 3d mod i have decided to name your cockpit as " Eagle Howard " and i amending one of my Eagles to your cockpit version later tonight , i will post some pics of my effort once done Roger

16-09-2012, 05:48 AM	#19
Howard Deputy Commander Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seaford, East Sussex. Posts: 822	Many thanks indeed Roger! I look forward to "Eagle Howard" very much. Cheers! Howard.

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