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Old 07-04-2014, 09:02 AM   #161
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The reason 'inaccurate' kits continue to sell is simply they are not inaccurate versions of themselves.

They have their own following. Would I enjoy building an MPC Eagle? Of course I would. Could I improve on the kit with 40 years of modelling experience? Of course, if I wanted to. But it doesn't have to be a super accurate version of the huge models used in the TV series to have an appeal - its appeal is the fact it is exactly what it is.

There is a certain sense in just buying what is available rather than waiting for 40 years for what is not....
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Old 07-04-2014, 03:42 PM   #162
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Seeing as Round2 (as implied by the name) re-issue old kits, where is the accurate 22" model coming from?
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Old 08-04-2014, 08:48 AM   #163
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That's the word out there that if sales for the Round2 reissue kits (Eagle, moonbase, mooncar) had sufficient interest, Round2 would come out with a 22" Eagle.


We're all hoping and waiting
Well I would welcome it.

Just also can see the merits of the old kit. Not all that accurate out of the box, but could be built in an hour by a novice/young modeler. Be a fairly nice representation in a weeks work from someone willing to put in the time. Easily rival any diecast offering in the hands of an experienced modeler.

I've seen it all happen before, the 1/72 scale EE Lightning from Airfix was a classic example. For years people moaned about it and then Trumpeter came out with a peach, which everyone then moaned about because it had a couple of little mistakes.

They then spent hours correcting the mistakes, paying out for resin replacement parts etc. I can turn the Airfix kit into a better representation (i.e. re-etch all the panel lines, fix profile problems etc) in a couple of days. Makes me wonder what all the fuss is about

What we had before was cheaper and more versatile and that had a value of its own.

So though I would welcome a more accurate kit, I've really no worries that Round2 re-released the old kit.

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Old 09-04-2014, 12:55 AM   #164
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Round2 does issue new kits through their various companies such as Polar Lights and Mobius Models.
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Old 09-04-2014, 03:11 AM   #165
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I'm wondering why Round 2 didn't reissue the Hawk? I would think it would have been a better seller than that Alien car thing...
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Old 09-04-2014, 12:26 PM   #166
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I'm wondering why Round 2 didn't reissue the Hawk? I would think it would have been a better seller than that Alien car thing...
I understand that the moulds can't be found.
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Old 09-04-2014, 11:42 PM   #167
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Round2 does issue new kits through their various companies such as Polar Lights and Mobius Models.



Moebius aren't a part of Round 2. They're an entirely separate company.
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Old 10-04-2014, 07:01 AM   #168
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I'm wondering why Round 2 didn't reissue the Hawk? I would think it would have been a better seller than that Alien car thing...
Round 2 are looking for the Hawk moulds. They hope to be able to announce something at Wonderfest (end of May). See their reply to comment 15 on their website-
http://www.collectormodel.com/round2...ints/#comments

IMHO I think they're more likely to reissue the Hawk than retool or make a new larger Eagle.
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Old 10-04-2014, 08:29 PM   #169
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Round 2 are also in the process of producing a brand new 1/32 Shuttle craft from the original series of Star Trek, they have just sent off the kit designs to the Chinese manufactures for it's first test run. It has taken them over a year to get this far, we can expect that the company will make any announcement as to the release date at this years Wonderfest.

So it is not an impossibility for them to produce a new Eagle kit they just need the right incentives.

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Old 15-04-2014, 11:38 AM   #170
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Not sure I would go that far WA.

Mobius undertook a huge amount of work to improve and reissue the 4 windowed Seaview kit, then a new set of tools for the 8 windowed version. The large scale Seaview and Flying sub kits are just exquisite and a dream fulfilment for me. I think the market for Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea and Space: 1999 are the same in collectors terms, I have no clue which has the larger populace of fans, I would like to think it was very close in number so the kit companies could look at a new version of the Eagle as a serious project. Star Trek kits of the most obscure ships seem to sell in a never ending stream so the market must be there.

I have to agree about the economic climate but when you look at the sky rocket prices for the PE collectables you have to wonder if the market has actually weakened at all. I would love to hear from the dealers at Wonderfest to see how it went for them. The fact that Round2 bought these old moulds and think that another go around would be profitable also says something.
I think a new detailed eagle kit would do very well. Has any one tried to get the reissue eagle. Its almost sold out. Ive been lucky and got two on ebay. I still remember them being sold by airfix in Woolworths for 2.50. You can get the brass detailing kit for them too so some ones investing in them. A 22" eagle would do very well.
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Old 15-04-2014, 01:22 PM   #171
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Round2 does reissue older kits, but they enhance they with decals (mostly) or a minor retooling (Klingon BoP with Landing Gear, Reliant with corrected saucer...).
When they do produce a new kit, it is very well researched and accurate. For years people had clamored for an accurate TOS Enterprise, when they did it finally last year in 1/350 scale is was as perfect a production kit could be.
If they do create a new 22" Eagle kit I am confident it will be a winner.
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Old 16-04-2014, 12:26 PM   #172
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Just finished an accursed build of the reissue 12" eagle. Came out great. I'd post pix if I could figure out how.
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Old 16-04-2014, 12:27 PM   #173
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Just finished an accuratized build of the reissue 12" eagle. Came out great. I'd post pix if I could figure out how.
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Old 19-04-2014, 03:30 PM   #174
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Default Accurized MPC re-issue

Here's my build. Drilled out the cages and added piping to the engine block. Also used the Paragrafix photo etch kit for the landing gear.
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Old 19-04-2014, 04:28 PM   #175
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Great build - looks wonderful
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Old 20-04-2014, 01:39 AM   #176
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This is one way Round 2 could have improved the kit from it's original version. Just a thought not a jab at the original kit.
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Old 20-04-2014, 03:08 PM   #177
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Another build of this kit, this time by Colin Omilusik, including a few modifications.

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Old 23-04-2014, 10:08 PM   #178
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Oops, see next post please.

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Old 23-04-2014, 10:10 PM   #179
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Here's my build. Drilled out the cages and added piping to the engine block. Also used the Paragrafix photo etch kit for the landing gear.
I got a nice chuckle out of your "accursed" comment on the old kit and enthusiastically agree with everyone's hopes for a fresh 22" (it might just be enough to bring me out of model building retirement), but that's still a darn fine build of the old kit.
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