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Old 27-10-2008, 03:07 AM   #21
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That's still pretty good Astro. Blimey, some of NASA's photos are softer than that. Sharp may be ideal but slightly soft still works. The shadow of the clouds on the sea below sell the background as real and gives it depth. The model's not too shabby either (understatement).
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I just wish I'd have had all the wonderful NASA reference that's available today at the click of a mouse. There are some glaring mistakes on the model, if you know where to look......
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Old 27-10-2008, 03:10 AM   #22
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Beautiful shot, and terrific CSM! What is it, about 1/12th scale?
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It's 1/20th scale. Maybe I'll make a bigger version one day, although I've promised myself a Soyuz first
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Old 27-10-2008, 11:40 AM   #23
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That's a beautiful model. Certainly be interested in seeing the Soyuz if you build that.

Only one nit pick, an Apollo CSM with a SimBay was never seen by itself above the Earth. But as I say, that's just nitpicking

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Old 27-10-2008, 02:31 PM   #24
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DX took the words out of my mouth... er, off of my keyboard!
There are actual NASA pics that looks as good-or worse-than that! The very slight blur actually makes the model look bigger, less like a miniature.
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Old 27-10-2008, 05:49 PM   #25
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how would you film a sky background for minitures?
I thought about painting a very thin coloured sky on a large piece of card and putting it in the background, what did they use for thunderbirds if anyone knows i'll be grateful?
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Old 27-10-2008, 07:02 PM   #26
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Thunderbirds where canvas curtains and the legendary 'rolling sky'. a sheet of canvas between two rotating drums.
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Old 27-10-2008, 11:13 PM   #27
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I'm having a nightmare trying to find a decent sky!!

and when i did find one on an online art shop, it was a great piece exactly what i want, and the right size..but the price was a joke, 30 just for a 60cm sheet of paper. it gets worse as prices go up into the mid 200 quid range.

suerly there's someone who could do them for a better price somewhere..?
or it looks like i'll attempt a dodgy one myself.
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Old 28-10-2008, 02:36 AM   #28
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You can buy 'Sky Paper' from model railway shops. As I recall it's aprox 3ft by 2ft and is intended as a sky backdrop for model railway layouts.
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Old 28-10-2008, 04:24 AM   #29
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That's a beautiful model. Certainly be interested in seeing the Soyuz if you build that.

Only one nit pick, an Apollo CSM with a SimBay was never seen by itself above the Earth. But as I say, that's just nitpicking

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I'm looking forward to seeing the Soyuz when I build it too.... it's only been about 25 years since I first decided I'd make one...
Mind you, I did take my first step earlier on this year, and took a load of photos of the Soyuz they have at the National Space Centre in Leicester, so that's a start!

I was hoping no one would notice Apollo 15 was in the wrong place... damn!....
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Old 28-10-2008, 10:24 AM   #30
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I've got that soyuz covered fairly well too Keith if you need additional photos and also the one in the National Air And Space Museum, Washington docked with an Apollo.
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Old 28-10-2008, 01:04 PM   #31
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Be careful with those museum exhibits. From memory they are both painted white with blue stripes. No Soyuz ever flew like that. The Apollo Soyuz one had bright green thermal blankets and was not representative of a Soyuz with differing antennae etc. The more modern Soyuz TMA version have greyish blankets which have a slight sheen to them.

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Old 28-10-2008, 02:40 PM   #32
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I'll let you be the judge. This is a comp of two photos taken in 2000.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sfx_films/nasmsoyuz.jpg
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I've got that soyuz covered fairly well too Keith if you need additional photos and also the one in the National Air And Space Museum, Washington docked with an Apollo.
Thanks Chris, I might just take you up on the National Air And Space Museum shots at some point. I think I'm covered with the one in Leicester though (despite all the parties of schoolkids getting in the way!)
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Be careful with those museum exhibits. From memory they are both painted white with blue stripes. No Soyuz ever flew like that. The Apollo Soyuz one had bright green thermal blankets and was not representative of a Soyuz with differing antennae etc. The more modern Soyuz TMA version have greyish blankets which have a slight sheen to them.

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I'll bear that in mind - thanks. Silly as it might seem, I was toying with the idea of making it a model of the museum display itself, complete with the stand and plaque, but I haven't decided yet. Far too many other project with a higher priority at the moment, anyway.
Still.... "one day"....
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I'll let you be the judge. This is a comp of two photos taken in 2000.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sfx_films/nasmsoyuz.jpg
Nice shot!
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Silly as it might seem, I was toying with the idea of making it a model of the museum display itself, complete with the stand and plaque, but I haven't decided yet.
No, not silly at all. Still a valid modelling project. And you solve how you are going to display it at a stroke if you model the plinth as well!

And a nice of photo of it too, Chris.

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Astrocat

Just in case you decide to model the current Soyuz variant, thought you might like this photo of Soyuz TMA-7. One of the best I've seen.




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Old 02-11-2008, 02:24 AM   #38
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That photo must have been taken with a long lens for the background to be that out of focus.
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They use 400mm and 800mm lenses.

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I'd put money on that being the 800mm given the perspective. That's shot from a long distance. Good pic though.
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