Studio Scale Thunderbird 4 - Page 2

Air Terrainean · 08-11-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Meritamis

As you can see the Autolock has appeared on both sides of Thunderbird 4. I am now presuming that two sets were made of Thunderbird 4. From my research, the Airlock has appeared more times on the right side (ect: Desperate Intruder) rather than the left side (Day Of Disaster).

The studio is unlikely to have made two sets, although like other vehicle interiors, Thunderbird 4's cabin would have been upgraded for later episodes. The appearance of the Airlock on different sides is probably more likely to be due to the set only having one side section, and this would be swapped from side to side depending on the camera angle required.

DX-SFX · 08-11-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Air Terrainean

The appearance of the Airlock on different sides is probably more likely to be due to the set only having one side section, and this would be swapped from side to side depending on the camera angle required.

Yep. It was probably a stand alone set piece that could be moved very easily.

Dave · 08-11-2009, 05:28 PM

Going by JD's TB4 plan, if that is the original studio plan, maybe those are the colours of paints that would have been used on the other vehicles...

Wasn't Mike after the correct red for the fire truck??? You never know!

They may have had that colour mixed up by Trimite and then just used it for whatever else they built afterwards.

ac-60 · 08-11-2009, 06:17 PM

The TB4 interior set got redressed and used in Captain Scarlet. There's a photos I have somewhere of some of the Scarlet puppets sitting in a craft with a grey interior that has a very obvious yellow tank attached to the outside. It's one of the 'behind the scenes' photos feature The Spectrum pop group as I recall.

Mike Delamar · 08-11-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DX-SFX

Yep. It was probably a stand alone set piece that could be moved very easily.

too throw something in, the airlock sticker is higher on one side than the other, if you look at the rivets

Mike

Mike Delamar · 08-11-2009, 07:14 PM

actually, no it isnt, ignore that lol

IanStewart · 08-11-2009, 07:39 PM

Got going on the inserts for the side sections.

Shaped them all to fit properly. A few bubbles needed filling. I used milliput - brown but the paint will cover that over.

Then I sprayed them with a dark grey.

To give it a slight metallic look, I gave them the very light skim over with silver spray paint. The end result was still dark grey, but had a metallic hint to it.

filmsean@btinternet.com · 20-11-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JD

Here's a scan of the original blueprints, as they appeared in issue 6 of Century21 in 1991:

click thumbnail for large 2500x1750 image

The text regarding the colours reads:

Shaded bands: BSI.570 Traffic Red
Colour overall: BSI.309 Canary Yellow
Nos-lettering: Black

Thought it might help!

the colour used was ford daytona yellow

DX-SFX · 20-11-2009, 09:47 PM

According to my Ault & Wiborg catalogue, that was only available from 1971.

filmsean@btinternet.com · 20-11-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DX-SFX

According to my Ault & Wiborg catalogue, that was only available from 1971.

As I have experienced before, these books can, have been and are wrong. The colour was supplyed by trimite in uxbridge. The colour may have been called something else in its ealier life but it is Daytona Yellow and you can buy it off the shelf. I had an old trimite colour swatch and both Derek Meddings and Mike Trim verifyied it so its up to you.

DX-SFX · 20-11-2009, 10:10 PM

Well this catalogue lists colours back to the mid 1950's and the drawings state Canary Yellow. The catalogue also gives detailed lists of non standard corporate colours like the AA, the rail companies and even airline colours and in my my experience, pretty good. The only Canary Yellow listed is a B.Standard colour with the newer code of 42187 but the point is made that it's up to the reader to decide.

Meritamis · 24-11-2009, 07:43 PM

Then the control console and the back wall. First a matt grey undercoat. I had to find a lighter grey than expected. Being inside (on the finished model), it doesn't get much direct light, and seemed too dark.

Various screen grabs show the console and rear door to have a matt red/orange color. It took a lots of experimenting to get a shade I was happy with. I went for a shade that, when viewed from outside (as that is the only view the finsihed item will have) looked Ok.

To add some extra detail, we made some control levers with paper-clip wire and 'green stuff' on the ends. The cockpit needs as much detail as possible, as the outside is bland by comparison.

derekstanley · 08-01-2010, 10:49 PM

Have to go with DX on this one.I was in the Motor Spares business from 1973 and worked at a main Ford dealership before that, prepping new cars.Daytona Yellow was first used on the Mk3 Cortina around 1971.

DX-SFX · 08-01-2010, 10:59 PM

Found a BS colour chart online too. The number and name on the original drawing coincide so unless they changed it later, the drawing at least is consistent.

http://www.e-paint.co.uk/BS2660_colour_chart.asp

Makes you wonder what other colours might have been used like Poppy Red

lalo · 26-03-2013, 12:03 PM

...

Great action in these adventures.
Wonderful models for a world of childhood dreams. ... Jorge.

08-11-2009, 07:39 PM	#27
IanStewart Travel Tube Technician Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Surrey Posts: 57	Progress Got going on the inserts for the side sections. Shaped them all to fit properly. A few bubbles needed filling. I used milliput - brown but the paint will cover that over. Then I sprayed them with a dark grey. To give it a slight metallic look, I gave them the very light skim over with silver spray paint. The end result was still dark grey, but had a metallic hint to it. Last edited by IanStewart; 10-11-2009 at 07:46 AM.

26-03-2013, 12:03 PM	#35
lalo Alphan Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Spain Posts: 7	Studio Scale Thunderbird 4 ... Great action in these adventures. Wonderful models for a world of childhood dreams. ... Jorge.

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08-11-2009, 05:28 PM	#23
Dave Communications Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gloucestershire, UK Posts: 1,099	Going by JD's TB4 plan, if that is the original studio plan, maybe those are the colours of paints that would have been used on the other vehicles... Wasn't Mike after the correct red for the fire truck??? You never know! They may have had that colour mixed up by Trimite and then just used it for whatever else they built afterwards.

08-11-2009, 06:17 PM	#24
ac-60 Life Support Technician Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 92	The TB4 interior set got redressed and used in Captain Scarlet. There's a photos I have somewhere of some of the Scarlet puppets sitting in a craft with a grey interior that has a very obvious yellow tank attached to the outside. It's one of the 'behind the scenes' photos feature The Spectrum pop group as I recall.

08-11-2009, 07:14 PM	#26
Mike Delamar Medical Officer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Liverpool Posts: 3,264	actually, no it isnt, ignore that lol

20-11-2009, 09:47 PM	#29
DX-SFX Chief Medical Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,094	According to my Ault & Wiborg catalogue, that was only available from 1971.

20-11-2009, 10:10 PM	#31
DX-SFX Chief Medical Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,094	Well this catalogue lists colours back to the mid 1950's and the drawings state Canary Yellow. The catalogue also gives detailed lists of non standard corporate colours like the AA, the rail companies and even airline colours and in my my experience, pretty good. The only Canary Yellow listed is a B.Standard colour with the newer code of 42187 but the point is made that it's up to the reader to decide.

24-11-2009, 07:43 PM	#32
Meritamis Weapons Technician Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Solaster Posts: 138	Then the control console and the back wall. First a matt grey undercoat. I had to find a lighter grey than expected. Being inside (on the finished model), it doesn't get much direct light, and seemed too dark. Various screen grabs show the console and rear door to have a matt red/orange color. It took a lots of experimenting to get a shade I was happy with. I went for a shade that, when viewed from outside (as that is the only view the finsihed item will have) looked Ok. To add some extra detail, we made some control levers with paper-clip wire and 'green stuff' on the ends. The cockpit needs as much detail as possible, as the outside is bland by comparison.

08-01-2010, 10:49 PM	#33
derekstanley Alphan Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Eckington Sheffield Posts: 2	Have to go with DX on this one.I was in the Motor Spares business from 1973 and worked at a main Ford dealership before that, prepping new cars.Daytona Yellow was first used on the Mk3 Cortina around 1971.

08-01-2010, 10:59 PM	#34
DX-SFX Chief Medical Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,094	Found a BS colour chart online too. The number and name on the original drawing coincide so unless they changed it later, the drawing at least is consistent. http://www.e-paint.co.uk/BS2660_colour_chart.asp Makes you wonder what other colours might have been used like Poppy Red