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Old 28-09-2015, 01:07 PM   #1
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Default Blakes 7 Unmanned Ore Carrier

GROUNDHOG DAY!
Yep, not so much a thread ressurection, more of a restart.
I've been getting back into Blakes 7 just lately and, as usual when i do that with a show/film, the mind turnds to what i can make from it.
Looking through the threads here, i was might impressed with Clanger68's Wanderer Class recreation, i've always liked the ship, so thought i'd follow in his steps and make me one as well.
So i buy up two Airfix Shuttle kits and had me eye on tow more on the 'Bay.
Trouble was, when i put the two external tanks on a large piece of paper and then roughly drew the rest of the ship around them to gause what EMA size tubing i'd be needing, it dawned on me just how big and bulky it'd be - far too big and bulky for my ever diminishing den.
So, rethink.
I'd just bought two Shuttles, what was i going to do with them?
Then the lightbulb came on - 5 years ago, i'd started and half finished the Ore Carrier from "Star One" before getting distracted by some other build and selling it.
This is the thread that i had on it at the time:

http://www.eagletransporter.com/foru...ad.php?t=13261

The main components i need were the two external tanks i have, so why not have another go at it?
So, that's what i'm going to do.
But, a bit of help would sure be appeciated.
Back on my original thread, Fallingstar and Exterminator had put up some excellent reference shots of the original and there was mention of parts from the Leopold and 88mm kits being used.
I was hoping someone might be able to take a look at the pics and help me identify just where on the model they were used please?
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Old 29-09-2015, 12:29 PM   #2
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A miss spot by me I'm afraid on the 88mm. It's not on there.
AMT/General Hauler definitely, as is AMT/Ertl X-wing.
Lots of EMA abounds, but I think the ladder section is from somewhere else, the cage is definitely EMA.
J2 engine from Airfix Saturn V/1b.
Will have a longer look later...
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Old 29-09-2015, 12:34 PM   #3
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R2D2's from the X-wing in there, as is Airfix Lunare Lander, a nose wheel brace from 1/24th Harrier and I think 1/510th Revell Midway carrier - but will have to check.
Does anyone have better shots of the underside front?
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Old 29-09-2015, 01:13 PM   #4
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Hey there HH.
Yeah, i'd forgotten on my old thread you'd corrected the 88mm but that's not a prob - i seem to always be buying up the kit for donor parts, its such a useful source.
Think the AMT General Hauler is going to have to be missed - i'm guessing they're exhaust pipes on the upper sections and i don't want to spend 30 quid plus on a kit just fro them.
I'm thinking i'll bend some tube and put some sort of textured sleeve over it to try to match.
Unless anyone here has a couple of them they'd like to sell?
Got the X-Wing and R2 parts left over from the last attempt at this ship.
Yeah, noticed last time that the cage is correct but not the steps inside it - i think its because its a ladder that comes with the cage, and i think the original used stairs.
Am umming and ahhing at the moment as whether to stick what i've got or gamble on buying a stair set and hope it'll fit.
Do you think there's any Leopold in there? Hoping there is as i've bought a kit of it especially but, eyeballing the sprues, there doesn't seem to be anything recognisible.
The underside is the headscratcher - there seems to be an awful lot going on in there, but no idea what.
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Old 29-09-2015, 05:35 PM   #5
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stuck on the top end tips of the Space Shuttle booster tanks (although one has broken off) appear to be the body insert parts for the R2-D2 kit (the larger one).
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Old 29-09-2015, 07:34 PM   #6
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Yup, got that part sussed - i've only got the one, but i'll be pressing it into some Playdo more a mould and casting another in resin.
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Old 30-09-2015, 12:10 PM   #7
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stuck on the top end tips of the Space Shuttle booster tanks (although one has broken off) appear to be the body insert parts for the R2-D2 kit (the larger one).
Don't have that kit - Good Spot!
Does that mean what I thought were Midway carrier balconies on the front edge are not from this kit. Are they also Large R2 parts?
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Old 30-09-2015, 12:17 PM   #8
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God this is infuriating!
I need some better shots of the underside - will have a hunt around.
It looks like the GMC kit was also harvested for engine block and brake parts - don't take my word for it... yet.
I'll be back.
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Old 30-09-2015, 03:15 PM   #9
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Hey, if you've got info, i can wait!
"Midway Carrier Balconies"? No idea what that means, so no idea where to look, so no idea whether they are or not!
What parts on the ship do you mean?
I've made a start on the ship - bought the ladder and cage from EMA. Now, the cage is 100% right, but the ladder isn't.
Looking in the catalogue, i think Mat must've used a staircase instead as the line drawing almost exactly matches it.
I can't justify another EMA order and gamble it - eyeballed some other bits of this and ordered at the same time as the cage, and they're totally inaccurate (more on them later) and i don't want to risk doing the same again.
So, unlike here from 5 years ago where i just used it as is, this time i've added strips of Plasticard angled down to get the louvre effect.
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Old 01-10-2015, 02:10 PM   #10
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Right, that's the tanks built and tubing on the sides added.
I was going to do what i did five yaers ago and glue the cage between the tanks.
But i've been looking at this here shot of the original - and the tanks don't join to the cage at its widest point.
It looks like there's some other busy stuff on the underside that the tanks attach to.
But, when you look at the bottom shot here, there's nothing but cage.
So whatever it is must run through the middle of the cage to join to each tank.
Tha's going to be a head scratcher...
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Old 01-10-2015, 08:13 PM   #11
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Be interesting to see this finished. The Wanderer's been a bit on the back burner recently because of other things getting in the way but I've got many of the parts now. Like with the Ore carrier it's getting it altogether that's the awkward bit. Plus I still haven't got all the parts for my Pursuit ship.
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Old 05-10-2015, 03:40 PM   #12
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Right, i've been studying and studying the reference photos to figure out just how come the cage section in the centre of the Ore Carrier is connected as it's not touching the tanks.
And i think i've figured it out.
The EMA Cage has a ladder that slots neatly into the frame of the cage.
I think the stairs that Mat used instead of the ladder is wider than the cage, so he stuck it to the cage, so there was a jutting out either side, so Mat glued the tanks to that.
I think.
Of course, i've used the ladder, so can't go that way.
Instead, i've put tubing on the inside of each tank to act as a "shelf" for the Plasticard i've attached to the bottom of the cage to sit on to.
Oh, and i'm going the same way i did five years ago for the spheres at the front - two Christmas baubles.
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Old 05-10-2015, 05:24 PM   #13
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Are those baubles glass ? If so I don't recommend for numerous reasons !
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Old 05-10-2015, 07:23 PM   #14
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Ha! No, they're just plastic!
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:39 AM   #15
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Beware though - I had some plastic baubles and they've disintergrated over time.
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:43 AM   #16
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I think the originals are EMA hemispheres - again I maybe wrong
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Old 08-10-2015, 01:04 PM   #17
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http://www.eagletransporter.com/foru...7&d=1443708582

Some of the piping on top of the Shuttle External Tanks in this pic look like they come from the exhaust stacks of a Peterbilt truck kit.
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Old 08-10-2015, 01:17 PM   #18
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They most certainly are, Space Chopper!
And the bronze coloured tubes near the front are from that kit too.
I've had a bit of a rethink and retread on the build today - i start applying the General Hauler parts to the Ore carrier but then spot something in one of the reference photos - this side on view of the front area clearly shows that the underside is much thicker than what i've got just by having the cage there, most probably i'm seeing the side of the larger scale stairs that Mat Irvine had used on the original.
That's it, mind made up - i'm going to have to junk the adapted ladder that came with the cage and use the real deal.
But, which one?
The EMA catalogue has a whole of different scales, so i took a chance and ordered the two sizes that they could be and, phew, one was right.
The other is far too big, but i've got an upcoming use for that, so all's cool.
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Old 08-10-2015, 10:38 PM   #19
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Nice, you are really picking up some speed here identifying the parts this time. Gotta be something that everyone is missing joining the two external tanks, just cant get any clear images of it underneath.
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:11 AM   #20
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Much better.
With the correct stairs now in place, i can crack on.
First up, i've put a disc of Plasticard right below where the two X-Wing engine parts will be going - careful studying of the original shows that they're not actually joined to the upper curve of the cage as i'd first thought, but are sat slightly below it.
And an examination of the shot of the underside shows something circular there.
So, this disc will be a stand that a to be sourced spacer will be glued to, with the X-Wing parts sat on top.
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