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Old 10-05-2012, 06:15 PM   #41
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I don't remember the sound, but the jeep of word war 2 (called and MB or GPW or a bantam, depending on manufacturer or model) wasn't a '2.2 liter 'anything...it wasn't metric. 134 cubic inches of raw power, if you call 40 hp raw power.

What is distinctive about it's noise isn't the engine, but the engine and transmission, the transmission makes a distinctive whine that gives it it's
trademark noise.

If there is no whine, it's possibly a 151, that doesn't make that noise.
Thanks for that. I put 2.2 litre because in England engines are measured in metric. I think cubic inches is still used in America and Australia which you quoted. The 151 you mentioned would be around 2.5 litre.
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:06 AM   #42
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Thanks for that. I put 2.2 litre because in England engines are measured in metric. I think cubic inches is still used in America and Australia which you quoted. The 151 you mentioned would be around 2.5 litre.
I'm not sure about the 151, because I don't own one of those.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:54 PM   #43
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I'm not sure about the 151, because I don't own one of those.
You own a Jeep Ham Salad?
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:06 PM   #44
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You own a Jeep Ham Salad?
A 1944 GPW, yes. Took me 2 1/2 years to rebuild it, too. Horn still doesn't work right.

I thought about the 151, might still get one...would prefer a M38 though.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:23 PM   #45
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A 1944 GPW, yes. Took me 2 1/2 years to rebuild it, too. Horn still doesn't work right.

I thought about the 151, might still get one...would prefer a M38 though.
I had a Land Rover series 3 a few years ago. I brush painted it grey and put a yellow stripe along the side. The diesel engine was tired and the back axle and gearbox howled like a pack of wild dogs! It was unbearable over 40mph and after a few months of that on a daily 35 mile commute I sold it. I was hoping to find the actual type of Jeep that was used for the Hood's truck sound. I'd buy one just for the sound alone!! I looked at a Willys MB Jeep last year and an Austin Champ in rough condition but passed as cash was a little tight But as it's been mentioned before, the WW2 Willys etc does have a very high pitched and distinctive transmission whine.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:28 PM   #46
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A 1944 GPW, yes. Took me 2 1/2 years to rebuild it, too. Horn still doesn't work right.

I thought about the 151, might still get one...would prefer a M38 though.
I love those Jeeps.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:32 PM   #47
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I had a Land Rover series 3 a few years ago. I brush painted it grey and put a yellow stripe along the side. The diesel engine was tired and the back axle and gearbox howled like a pack of wild dogs! It was unbearable over 40mph and after a few months of that on a daily 35 mile commute I sold it. I was hoping to find the actual type of Jeep that was used for the Hood's truck sound. I'd buy one just for the sound alone!! I looked at a Willys MB Jeep last year and an Austin Champ in rough condition but passed as cash was a little tight But as it's been mentioned before, the WW2 Willys etc does have a very high pitched and distinctive transmission whine.
I haven't seen an Austin Champ for years!
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Old 13-05-2012, 01:39 AM   #48
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I had a Land Rover series 3 a few years ago. I brush painted it grey and put a yellow stripe along the side..
Yes, but did you put U.N.I.T. on it?
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Yes, but did you put U.N.I.T. on it?
Nope, but I put a 'D' on the door just below the quarter window, just like the Hood's truck. I also painted the headlamp surrounds red but never got around to adding the spotlights on the wing tops just below the windscreen
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Old 13-05-2012, 01:07 PM   #50
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brilliant

I wonder weather the standard sounds, which you hear in lots of tv and films of the time, where from one firm? and if they are archived and catalogued somewhere?


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Most ITC productions used stock sounds from "World Backgrounds" in Elstree.
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Old 13-05-2012, 01:21 PM   #51
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Great idea!
A friend of mine tried to figure out how many layers there are in the UFO sound effect, he even tried to duplicate it with his analogo synth, to no luck.
There's two to be sure, the hum, the occilating tone that shifts up and down an octave, and perhaps another rapid 'tweet, tweet, tweet,' sound.
I think that the UFO sound effect was probably done by Barry Grey using an Ondes Matinot : a french electronic keyboard based on the earlier Theremin . The Ondes featured a keyboard, (one of the complaints about the theremin is that you have to have perfect pitch to play one, it being played by moving your hand near an aerial) and, for more therimin-like glissandoes, a ring on a wire. The Odes also had a special speaker called a 'gong'. Basically it was a speaker with a large thin plate which added a metallic echo, and was mixable with the normal speaker. Barry Grey was one of the first people in the UK who owned an Ondes, and was considered to be one of the foremost experts in electronic music in the UK, outside of the BBC radiophonic workshop.
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Old 30-12-2017, 05:08 AM   #52
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Saw this post from awhile back by Air Terrainean:

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According to an interview with John and Jean Taylor in issue 11 of Century 21 magazine, many of the sounds of jet engines and other machines were recorded on a visit to Little Rissington airfield. One of the devices they recorded which was used for the Thunderbird craft was a form of blower used to rev jet engines.

Many of the effects crested for the series were used to form a sound effects library for a company formed by Gerry Anderson and David Elliott called... Soundefex Limited. This was later bought by Cinesound who went on to supply many of the AP/C21 effects for other movies and TV shows.
However, I looked over issue 11 and didn't see the article. Maybe my copy is missing something. Anybody know what section or page it was on?
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Old 30-12-2017, 11:23 PM   #53
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As far as I know, they never used BBC sound effects.
There was a company called Cinesound that apparently had the largest collection in the world at the time, and ATV bought it. I know Gerry Anderson did have an involvement with a sound effects company at one point, although whether it was Cinesound, I cannot say.

Cinesound got bounced around and bought and sold over a number of years before disappearing entirely. I have spent many years trying to track down the library but to no avail. There are a few classics that still occasionally pop up, and I know a lot were used in the Anderson shows, augmented by John Taylor's own work designed specifically for APF/C21.
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This was the last mention of Cinesound I could find. It sounds like it was never digitized as of 2006.

http://www.creativeplanetnetwork.com...ry-sale/398990

There are some reverse engineered sounds out there

http://www.fanderson.org.uk/forum/ar...php/t-303.html

Then I found this

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ound-sold.html

It seems like The Tape Gallery has them

The Tape Gallery
28 Lexington Street
London
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Telephone: 020 74393325


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Old 06-01-2018, 10:20 AM   #55
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Oh, glad to see it's still in existence somewhere.
Maybe the tape gallery might consider digitising them.
Unfortunately, it's a well-known problem that tape has a limited lifespan and the binder (glue) that holds the magnetic material to the plastic backing dries out so when the tape is played it just falls off, destroying everything. There are many 70's and older mastering and multitrack tapes that have been lost forever due to this problem.

As for the Fanderson stuff, I collected what I could of that stuff some years ago, and all links are now dead, but if there is sufficient interest I could repost them somewhere else.
I have to say though, the quality is not great.
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