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Old 10-11-2014, 03:45 PM   #41
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Thanks guys.
Looks like they are glued on the wrong place! Sure I followed the plans but maybe need to do the research better!
My eagle might be "sport scale"
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Old 10-11-2014, 08:14 PM   #42
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Thanks Richard. I only stuck that panel on last night. I might remove it, I have some thinner styrene, 0.25mm and paint it. It looked like a panel on the plans!
Hi Julian... All looking very good indeed. You might want to look at your panel thickness again before you go further though. Panel thickness on the original Eagle 1 is only 1/32" or 0.0312 also that decal the guys mentioned above is not a decal but a coated paper sticker from an early 1970's Sasco Year Planner Wall Chart. so slightly thicker than a decal. Bernie has it right with the sizes and I'd go with printing it on a laser printer too. Hope that helps.

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Old 10-11-2014, 09:23 PM   #43
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Thanks.
I won't worry; I don't think I ever thought I could, or would build a perfect studio copy. I will do my best and try to finish it as well as I can. I was never going to do the research.
I am enjoying finding out these things as I go along though, keep telling me!
Never know, might make a second one right!
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The Sasco stickers were used everywhere on the Space 1999 models, take a look at this image of Moonbase Alpha. I measured 60 or so but there is actually only a few differing sizes. I am pretty sure these were applied at the studio as part of the painting, detailing and dirtying down process.
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Old 10-11-2014, 10:25 PM   #45
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Guys
I had never come across sasco stickers or there use on the models.
Thanks it explains a lot and thanks for the offer.
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Old 10-11-2014, 11:23 PM   #46
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Search Sasco year planner on ebay and you could speculate about 3.50 for a set. If all the rumours are true they changed from Imperial sizes to metric, they are still so close you wouldn't really see any difference unless you were the digital caliper wielding anal retentive types. Of course if you are you can borrow mine.

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Sasco Year Planner 2015 wall mountable with kit http://r.ebay.com/rW6j2P
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Old 10-11-2014, 11:46 PM   #47
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Oh....he is an engineer caliper wielder, Bernie but even I'm a little too knit-picky at times. I spent 2 weeks battling between 1" and 24mm. Undecided, they both won.
Lol, 25.4mm old school.

In the end it is usually either machining, materials cost or display space requirements that dictate a build. I always encourage builders to use what they have rather than build nothing in the hopes of staying within the constraints of hard prop reproduction.

In fact if you think about it the Eagle is a great model to improve over time as it is all modular. You could replace a home made unit, say a CM with a mark 2 version or perhaps buy a professionally made unit later. I think it's very important to try and make yourself or you will learn very little. My first set of engine bells were made from car filler (Bondo) turned in the chuck of my drill in a stand. I used my height gauge to cut the grove details and they looked pretty good for a painted finish. I wish I had images to show you but it was a technique Martin Bower showed me, he used it on several models. This is what I like about Julian's approach, he has no fear to try something new.

I found an image that illustrates the method Martin used. Take a look at this image from my Facebook Page made in a very similar way to the way I described:
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Old 10-11-2014, 11:57 PM   #48
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Thanks chaps. A little too much credit there I think.
What I am really doing is staying inside my comfort zone; I am quite happy working a CAD and CNC machine - it might look new and interesting (hope you are enjoying) but it is just what I know!
Notice the passenger pod hasn't moved forward much? Really should pluck up the courage to have ago at some brass work!
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Old 11-11-2014, 09:10 AM   #49
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Default Incremental upgrades.....

.....taking a leaf out of Bernie's book, I wholeheartedly agree with the upgrade / improvement potential of the Eagle. Just as we'd imagine them being modified over time in real life, I have already thought about the possibilities once my project's complete. Command module and shoulder pods can all be removed, then improved or, indeed, replaced. I'd have to cut the engine bells off, though, and start again.

Also support the notion that, whatever materials and manufacturing processes are employed, make as much as you can. Learning curves can be steep but enjoyable and fulfilling at the same time.

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Also support the notion that, whatever materials and manufacturing processes are employed, make as much as you can. Learning curves can be steep but enjoyable and fulfilling at the same time.
I absolutely agree with Bernie and Patrick on this one.... That's why I'm creating my own working drawings for my 44" Build, rather than buying them. It's much more satisfying to achieve the result from scratch. it's also a lot lot cheaper to make mistakes inside the computer, and correct them before cutting or casting or machining real world materials.

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Getting round to doing some more work. Couple of older photos found on computer. The MDF is "soaked" in PVA - finding this better than sanding sealer to get a finish; I have been letting the sheets dry before removing the fluff on the edges.

The slave board on the machine - can you see the different parts? (Most of them are spine booster but I have started Walk Ways).

Happy New Year!
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Yeah, a lot of work! I don't recommend but saved buying resin copies and was never keen on solid ones - but what other options? Has been enjoyable, pleased how well it has gone together, they are fairly true, strong and light weight.

I have just finished building the 3d printer, it is calibrated and ready to go. Not big enough to print these though!
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Casting the corners might be an option, the four corners are the same - one tool. Linking the corners with rectangles of styrene would workout nicely, might think about it but only intend on making one model!

I have modelled the glider in CAD - just from photos and rough sizes, I will test my printer with this at a scale to suit my Dinky's.

The base plates are glued - looking a bit rough but will polish up ok and a bit of filler to sharpen up the corners. Happy days! The small fiddly bits for the corners will be rough cut with a knife.
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....you're well on the way now - another stage of your Eagle's construction well under control. Keep going Julian.

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Old 03-01-2015, 04:03 PM   #55
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A little bit more....

Who needs to weather when they can hardly keep their fingers clean!
Looking Ok, light clean and thin spray and I hope they come out better.

Thinking more and more - I prefer Eagle 2 leg pods with additional panels and more interesting panel shapes (I believe anyway). I especially think the triangle fillets need detail (Plus benefit - covering up the rough patches!)
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Sacrilege?
Have 3d printed the side thrusters, and have made some little additions.
The thruster bells are a little larger than the originals; I always thought they looked a bit small.
Have added some details to the outside and inside of the bell. difficult to see in the block red resin colour.

What do we think; shall I use them? I like them.
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1 hour.
It is a DLP projector based machine. The layer takes the same time for 1 off or 16.
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My first attempt with the printer wasn't such a good hour!
I assembled the machine, set it up etc
Takes a little learning.

I am going to raid the kids warhammer paints today but vacuum metalising might be the way to go.
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Old 05-07-2015, 05:24 PM   #59
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Some know, I have been doing and Engineering MSc part time whilst working full time. Project is handed in, let life restart!

Did a bit of painting yesterday, still a bit of touching up to do

Glad to be back.
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Not the best painter in the world...........by a long way!

Bit smudged in places, some marks and over painting going on but when dry it might clean up.
I am fairly happy, they look ok and it could all go wrong with the panel lines anyway!
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