Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Forum


Go Back   Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Forum > Main Mission > Launch Pad

Notices

SPONSORED BY
&

Reply Bookmark and Share
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 25-07-2010, 02:04 AM   #1
gattispilot
Communications Officer
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 859
Default Eagle Pad Docking Tube

I am redoing my Eagle for Orbiter. I have noticed that mine has a rotating dish which not sure where that came from. And a rotating beacon.

But I guess it has NO reverse thruster. It has been suggested thet the reverse come out of the 2 missile ports? Any ideas?
gattispilot is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2010, 02:43 AM   #2
Steve Gerard
Medical Officer
 
Steve Gerard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: east coast U.S.A.
Posts: 3,871
Default

gattispilot, I have not seen anything about the missile ports used as reverse thrusters.

http://www.space1999.net/~catacombs/...mblueagle1.jpg

I am not familiar about the rotating dish and rotating beacon?

Does it have the Laser 1 Turret the rises up from the roof of the forward Service Section/Galley as seen in "Devil's Planet"?

Last edited by Steve Gerard; 25-07-2010 at 02:58 AM. Reason: info
Steve Gerard is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2010, 03:08 AM   #3
gattispilot
Communications Officer
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 859
Default

Thanks someone suggesting using the missile ports as a spot for reverse thrust. I think I am going to use the steering thrusters on the pods for that. I may removed the beacon and radar they look cool not not correct. On the laser turrent it would seem it would get in the way
gattispilot is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2010, 04:06 AM   #4
Steve Gerard
Medical Officer
 
Steve Gerard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: east coast U.S.A.
Posts: 3,871
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gattispilot View Post
Thanks someone suggesting using the missile ports as a spot for reverse thrust. I think I am going to use the steering thrusters on the pods for that. I may removed the beacon and radar they look cool not not correct. On the laser turrent it would seem it would get in the way
Looking at the Eagle, I agree with you that the maneuvering steering thrusters are correct.

Here is a screen cap of the Laser 1 Turret that rises up from the forward Service Module(Galley/Access Corridor).http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/m...dp/spdp164.jpg
Steve Gerard is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2010, 11:58 AM   #5
gattispilot
Communications Officer
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 859
Default

Was this standard equipment or an add on later. I guess the laser fit between the top of the frame and the top of the front pod.

I would have thought nav lights would have been on it.
gattispilot is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote

Old 25-07-2010, 02:18 PM   #6
Steve Gerard
Medical Officer
 
Steve Gerard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: east coast U.S.A.
Posts: 3,871
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gattispilot View Post
Was this standard equipment or an add on later. I guess the laser fit between the top of the frame and the top of the front pod.

I would have thought nav lights would have been on it.
The Eagle after "Breakaway" had the Laser that emitted from below the (like my avatar) in the front between the Command Module and the Service Module(Galley/Access Corridor). In the second Season, the first Season Laser that I just described is now designated Laser 2 because the Eagles are now equipped with the Laser 1 Turret. Best onscreen example is when Koenig returns to the crashed Eagle to use this Laser 1 Turret against the prison women in "Devil's Planet". All due to the alien encounter threat, the Laser 1 Turret is used in all the episodes when the Eagle is on the ground; due to the fact the underside Laser 2(like my avatar) was never fired when the Eagle was on the ground.

http://space1999.net/catacombs/main/...aglextras.html

Here you can clearly see on the Laser Control panel in the Eagle Pilot Section(Command Module) Koenig presses Laser 1 for the Laser Turret:
http://space1999.net/catacombs/main/epimg/tidp9.html

Last edited by Steve Gerard; 25-07-2010 at 02:20 PM. Reason: info
Steve Gerard is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2010, 09:02 PM   #7
gattispilot
Communications Officer
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 859
Default

One thing on the blueprints of the eagle frame ground there appears to be a center rail but not seen on an eagle.

Also on the docking tubes. It looks like it doesn't seal completely.
http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/m...w2meagle2.html

Last edited by gattispilot; 25-07-2010 at 09:05 PM.
gattispilot is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2010, 09:50 PM   #8
Steve Gerard
Medical Officer
 
Steve Gerard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: east coast U.S.A.
Posts: 3,871
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gattispilot View Post
One thing on the blueprints of the eagle frame ground there appears to be a center rail but not seen on an eagle.
Here is a model with the third center rail at this link(look through pages 1,2 and 3): http://www.fxmodels.com/space1999.shtml
I think I know what you mean, e.g., on the Keith Young Blueprints(found at .dragonsdomain.co.uk, I think you already down loaded the set for previous research it is image 099) entitled Interplanetary Spacecraft Eagle #4017 blueprint, there is a third rail running down the center of the dorsal spine of the top the Eagle. I do not know why that is there.
I just am wondering if Keith and also the modelmaker at the link included the center rail for some official reason? I am wondering if the Eagles used on the series and the retail models all forgot it...do they know something we don't? So gattispilot if you consider the models used on the series canon then do not include the third center rail...I guess.



On a different previous subject, also in those Keith Young Blueprints(found at dragonsdomain.co.uk, I think you already down loaded the set for previous research it is image 095) entitled Interplanetary Spacecraft Eagle #4015 blueprint he has included the Laser 1 Turret.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gattispilot View Post
Also on the docking tubes. It looks like it doesn't seal completely.http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/m...w2meagle2.html
I noticed that gaffe too on the miniature model. However, based on the full-scale set tight seal I just allowed that the docking tube has an inner layer that makes the tight seal...my excuse for the gaffe.http://www.space1999.net/~catacombs/...de/umdock.html

Last edited by Steve Gerard; 26-07-2010 at 02:38 AM. Reason: info
Steve Gerard is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2010, 11:21 AM   #9
gattispilot
Communications Officer
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 859
Default

Thanks I'll take a look at them.

Another question. Not sure about the bottom edge of the docking tube. If the bottom goes under the edge of the module then unless there is a raised floor there would be a drop off. Not sure if it fits in a recess under the door. But haven't seen any recess area.









On the Eagle I may add a rotating red beacon to the center and left nav lights



I looked at this image and the bottom does go under the module so it must have a floor higher up. So Of course where do those side door open to and not on the interior.

Last edited by gattispilot; 26-07-2010 at 01:34 PM.
gattispilot is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2010, 02:29 PM   #10
Steve Gerard
Medical Officer
 
Steve Gerard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: east coast U.S.A.
Posts: 3,871
Default

gattispilot, excellent images that you created of the Eagle and docking boarding tube all angles.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gattispilot View Post
I looked at this image and the bottom does go under the module so it must have a floor higher up.
Yes, that is another assumption of mine that there is an inner higher floor with the inner walls and ceiling tight seal I just allowed that the docking tube has an inner layer that makes the tight seal...my excuse for the gaffe. http://www.space1999.net/~catacombs/...de/umdock.html

Quote:
Originally Posted by gattispilot View Post
So Of course where do those side door open to and not on the interior.
I assumed those side doors are there for either possible future docking tube extensions or emergency access...possibilities.

Last edited by Steve Gerard; 26-07-2010 at 02:34 PM. Reason: info
Steve Gerard is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote

Old 26-07-2010, 03:23 PM   #11
baldax
Hydroponics Technician
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Mantova, Italy
Posts: 35
Default

Here are my two cents on the subject...

baldax is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2010, 03:58 PM   #12
Steve Gerard
Medical Officer
 
Steve Gerard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: east coast U.S.A.
Posts: 3,871
Default

baldax, excellent cutaway cross section. I just noticed that you are missing the Docking Boarding Tube has that lower ledge lip that actually goes under the Passenger Module a little when docked. http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/m...e/sptle040.jpg
In gattispilot post#9 the last screen cap photo shows that lower ledge lip(like a shovel) just before it will dock.

http://www.space1999.net/~catacombs/...de/umdock.html

Last edited by Steve Gerard; 26-07-2010 at 06:08 PM. Reason: info
Steve Gerard is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2010, 04:06 PM   #13
gattispilot
Communications Officer
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 859
Default



Here is a rough drawing of what I think it should look like. The inside wall are the off white color the edge that come in contact with module is red.

The area between the 2 set of double doors has red panels. This covers the side doors. It doesn't look like you could use those doors. Maybe brown panels on the front/rear side.


There is a slight drop seen here


Not sure what that red lines between the eagle wall and door frame.
gattispilot is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2010, 04:17 PM   #14
NeoGoglu
Eagle Pilot
 
NeoGoglu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Montreal, QC
Posts: 505
Default

Not sure how to explain this in English, but i would assume
it's a 'shock absorption joint' when the boarding tube docks
to the passenger pod.

You can see similar joints at the airport between a plane
and the boarding deck.

It was made on the full size set but not visible on the
original boarding tube model
NeoGoglu is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2010, 04:18 PM   #15
Steve Gerard
Medical Officer
 
Steve Gerard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: east coast U.S.A.
Posts: 3,871
Default

gattispilot, perfect that you included the Docking Boarding Tube has that lower ledge lip that actually goes under the Passenger Module a little when docked. I like your image that defines the Docking Boarding Tube inner floor, walls & ceiling brilliantly. Like I thought the side doors are probably covered over inside because they are for future updates(never done) or emergency access only.

Last edited by Steve Gerard; 26-07-2010 at 04:22 PM. Reason: correction
Steve Gerard is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote

Old 26-07-2010, 04:21 PM   #16
Steve Gerard
Medical Officer
 
Steve Gerard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: east coast U.S.A.
Posts: 3,871
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoGoglu View Post
Not sure how to explain this in English, but i would assume
it's a 'shock absorption joint' when the boarding tube docks
to the passenger pod.

You can see similar joints at the airport between a plane
and the boarding deck.

It was made on the full size set but not visible on the
original boarding tube model
Brilliant NeoGoglu! You are correct. It is the inner(floor,walls&ceiling) Docking Boarding Tube shock absorption joint...that guarantees a seal. Thanks NeoGoglu.
Steve Gerard is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2010, 04:30 PM   #17
gattispilot
Communications Officer
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 859
Default

Nice I like baldax. I may use that for the docking tubes. I guess the red flex seal extends through the tube. So you would see red from the outside.

The space between the doors would have to be wide enough to allow the side doors to open

It would be nice to see a top view
gattispilot is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2010, 05:08 PM   #18
Steve Gerard
Medical Officer
 
Steve Gerard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: east coast U.S.A.
Posts: 3,871
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gattispilot View Post
I guess the red flex seal extends through the tube. So you would see red from the outside.
I think the red flex seal 'shock absorption joint' which is a part of the internal docking tube inner floor/walls/ceiling sleeve and not the external docking boarding tube(as seen in photos of the miniatures of the LP docking tube with the Eagle) was not be seen on the outside...makes sense
Steve Gerard is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2010, 05:24 PM   #19
gattispilot
Communications Officer
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 859
Default

So from the inside you would see the red part but not from the outside.
gattispilot is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2010, 05:27 PM   #20
Steve Gerard
Medical Officer
 
Steve Gerard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: east coast U.S.A.
Posts: 3,871
Default

Yes. that is what it seems to be. I base this on examining the miniature models and the full-scale sets from Space:1999.

Last edited by Steve Gerard; 26-07-2010 at 05:36 PM. Reason: info
Steve Gerard is off duty   Bookmark and Share Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
This site and contents are copyright Bernard Walsh 2010 all rights reserved, no reproduction of material in any form without written permission email: Bernie.walsh@mac.com