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Old 20-03-2010, 08:46 AM   #1
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Default Aliens, 2001 and 2010 rare 70mm next week

A heads up, if a little short notice. Next Saturday March. 27. The Pictureville in Bradford as part of the renown Bradford film festival has back-to-back screenings of the 70mm versions of Alien, 2001 and 2010.

http://www.nationalmediamuseum.org.u...sp?filmid=1217

http://www.nationalmediamuseum.org.u...asp?filmid=873

http://www.nationalmediamuseum.org.u...asp?filmid=874

2001: A Space Odyessy is the Cinerama version and will be shown on the big curved screen and is the first outing of this version for many a year. This is how Kubrick meant it to be seen and is mind-blowing in this format.

The Pictureville is the only fully capable Cinerama theatre in the country and only one of two in the world. The other is in private hands, I believe. Given the modest cost, get yourself down to the Pictureville next Saturday.

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Old 20-03-2010, 11:53 AM   #2
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Sorry to be a geek, but the first film is Alien, not Aliens. Aliens was the sequel to Alien.
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Old 20-03-2010, 02:07 PM   #3
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A typo.

If semantics is your game, I did not give the full titles of 2001 and 2010 either.

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Old 22-03-2010, 08:01 PM   #4
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Hottest ticket so far this year...already booked all 3...but actually a pity Alien.s isn't there too!!!!
Might see if they want a 2001 and Alien display from my collection.
NEVER ever seen a 70mm and 2001 and Alien are in my top 3...Will be weird to see my stuff up there after nearly 30 years!
Can't wait..spread the word
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Old 22-03-2010, 08:47 PM   #5
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Aliens wasn't shot in 70mm. It was also only shot in 1:85 ratio anamorphic.
And it's rubbish next to Alien!

Would love to see 2010 in 70mm, as it was the first movie shot with unique back lit blue screens to generate crystal sharp holdouts.

My old Region 1 2001 special edition still looks incredible to this day!
but then the holdouts look amazing because they are all hand drawn rotoscoped!
Thats why it took four years to make!
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Old 23-03-2010, 08:06 PM   #6
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Aliens wasn't shot in 70mm. It was also only shot in 1:85 ratio anamorphic.
And it's rubbish next to Alien!

According to this the National Media Museum they appear to hold 70mm copies of Aliens and Aliens 3 and have shown them in the past - link below. I'm sure they are not the sort of people to fib.

http://www.nationalmediamuseum.org.u...ilms_alien.asp

I'm seeing all three on Saturday. But have to say if it was not for my son wanting to see Alien, I would have skipped that.

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Old 23-03-2010, 08:19 PM   #7
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Hottest ticket so far this year...already booked all 3...but actually a pity Alien.s isn't there too!!!!
Keep and eye out on the Pictureville and NMM websites I have heard it could be shown later in the year.

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NEVER ever seen a 70mm and 2001 an't wait..spread the word
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It's not only 70mm, its being shown on the curved screen via a Cinerama projector,the way Kubrick meant it to bee seen. You won't be disappointed, particularly impressive I think is the fly through on Space Station V. The sound system in the Pictureville is top banana as well. The only minor point is, the last time I saw 2001, 5/6 years back the NMM print was a little worn. It would be nice to think they have had a new print struck since.

I think some time over the course of the Festival John Hurt is doing a Q&A at the Pictureville, pretty sure its not next Saturday though.

In my opinion the NMM is a huge and underused resource.

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Old 23-03-2010, 11:57 PM   #8
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I would have to dig up my old Cinefex to get the details, but Richard Edlund left ILM to setup Boss Films and do VFX on films like 2010. Seeing as he was a cameraman first, the optical compositing process would have evolved at Boss.
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2010 was the first movie done by Boss films and what a debut.
The only thing that annoyed me about 2010 was that Floyds house was a bit of a let down after reading the book. Otherwise awesome with an excellent screenplay!

In terms of 35-70mm transfer, well Douglas Trumbull and Matthew Yurrich wouldn't agree with the statement that there is no image degradation. And I'm no going to argue with either of them.

Still: would love to see 70mm 2001 on a curved screen and Aliens is still rubbish!
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Boss developed new material and light filters for backlit screens. It was based on technology Edlund was familiar with at ILM.
Tomorrows world did a special on Boss films at the time of 2010's release 26 years ago.
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2010 was the first movie done by Boss films and what a debut.
The only thing that annoyed me about 2010 was that Floyds house was a bit of a let down after reading the book. Otherwise awesome with an excellent screenplay!
I think its OK as sci-fi movies go, but pales into insignificance compared to 2001.


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Still: would love to see 70mm 2001 on a curved screen
Get yourself along, its only 6.50 a chuck. You won't regret it.

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Aliens is still rubbish!
But its 70mm rubbish.

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Boss developed new material and light filters for backlit screens. It was based on technology Edlund was familiar with at ILM.
Tomorrows world did a special on Boss films at the time of 2010's release 26 years ago.
2010 was inferior to 2001 in many ways considering the developments in 65mm vfx cinematography and optical work since 1965-68 for 2001.
Design wise the Leonov, which I loved, looked like it predated the Discovery..
And, unlike 2001 almost every shot is a 'lock-off', something Richard Edlund VFX supervisor proudly, visually and verbally contradicted on Star Wars..
All the shots in 2001 have beautiful linear glide or drift giving them massive scale, something lacking in a lot of the shots in 2010...
(although its not a bad film by the way)....
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Old 26-03-2010, 08:19 PM   #13
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Thumbs up i'll be there

hi movie lovers
i will b there in bradford 4 all 3
don't b shy please make yourselves known 2 me if u see me
i'll be wearing a Nostromo cap
phil rae - alien model maker
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I would have loved to have been able to go. Sadly I found out to late about it and couldn't make it. It would have been cool to meet Phil.
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Old 30-03-2010, 08:24 PM   #15
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It was a great day.

2001 in Cinerama never ceases to amaze. Think 70mm and about a third larger. It was the cleanest Cinerama print of 2001 I have seen of 2001, not perfect but not to shabby either.

Not a huge fan of 2010, but that does benefit from being shown in 70mm. It was also by far best of all the prints shown on the day - being just about flawless.

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It was a great show..
2001 design-wise always looks more futuristic than 2010 to me..
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I first saw 2001 in Cinerama on first release and I still recall how wonderful it was. The film was designed to fill that screen and even the widescreen DVDs seem clipped.
2010 was OK and it did have a nice scene of the Dicovery spinning end over end, but it seems just a movie instead of 'Art' as 2001. Kubrick has a vision of showing man's place in his technology and that theme ran through th ewhole film- the story events were secondary.
When we got the HD TV I showed my nephews 2001. After the grandure of spaceflight to such classical music, one turned and asked me- "Does anybody say anything in this movie?"
I guess that cannot be too surpising with them growing up in an explosion every three minutes era...

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