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**Big Rab** · 10-10-2005, 09:13 PM

When looking for Brass Tubing, for the 44" model, dont forget to check out B&Q. it has got a good stock of brass parts including tubing it has only 2.0mm, 4.0mm and 6.0mm thin wall stuff (0.5mm) but it can be used for lots of framework sections, apart ftom the spine and main cage (jig rails) this saving LOADS of cash in your build up!! perhaps its just me being Scottish

but every little helps

DX-SFX · 10-10-2005, 09:24 PM

B&Q stock brass tube?

**Big Rab** · 10-10-2005, 09:48 PM

Yip, B&Q. the 6mm x 0.5mm is £3.98 per Meter. i just got 10 meters of the stuff but will have to go to Smiths metals for the other 8m of the thick wall tube for important parts.

DX-SFX · 10-10-2005, 10:04 PM

What scale are you planning to build at?

**Big Rab** · 11-10-2005, 01:13 PM

I intend to build the 44" version. i know that the dimentions of the metal are not exactly correct, they should be 3/16" = 4.78mm , 1/4" = 6.35mm and 5/16" = 7.93mm. however, i will have to use the 4mm (or find some 5mm) ,6mm and 8mm Brass simply because to buy it from "smiths metals" would cost a fortune at over £10 per meter

this would put the total cost of this model way out of my reach. so for my first scratch build i gota do what i gota do.

shrugger · 11-10-2005, 02:01 PM

OUCH!
You might try http://www.specialshapes.com/
Even with shipping to Scottland I can't see it coming to even half that

DX-SFX · 11-10-2005, 02:09 PM

That's definitely wrong. I bought ninety feet of tube for under £55. Remember it's sold by weight at Smith's. They must be quoting you for rod but even then that's wrong.

Maidstone Engineering Services can supply 1/4" brass rod for under £1 a foot and they're slightly more expensive than Smith's.

http://www.maidstone-engineering.co.uk/fs.htm

Click on "Materials" and scroll not quite half way down.

**Big Rab** · 11-10-2005, 03:45 PM

Thanks for the info guys

i hope that you are right about the price. When i get back home from work, i will post a copy of "Smiths metals" replys to my price request just to show you what they told me.

**Big Rab** · 11-10-2005, 08:50 PM

here are parts of the 2 replies i got from Smiths.......... I think i better give them a phone!

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4mm od x .5mm wall 1 x 3.84 mtr length @ £9.11 per meter
6mm od x 1mm wall 1 x 3.7 mtr length @ £10.54 per meter
8mm od x 1mm wall 1 x 3.35 mtr length @ £12.54 per meter
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re our quote regarding brass tube 4mmod x .5mm wall etc
the price i quoted is correct at £9.11 PER METER.
regards
Jenny Webb
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DX-SFX · 11-10-2005, 08:55 PM

You might find the correct imperial size is a lot cheaper.

**Big Rab** · 12-10-2005, 06:22 PM

Phoned Smiths today and got new prices for Imperial size tubes........ 1/4" is half the price of the 6mm. so it is looking better already.

DX-SFX · 12-10-2005, 07:03 PM

That sounds better. They don't stock really weird sizes (and metric is still weird to Smiths despite their catalogue) so they probably have to order in a certain quantity. From memory all their metal comes in to them in 20 ft lengths or so. They'll cut stuff down into manageable lengths for getting into a car, free of charge but don't go mad or they will charge you for cutting.

shrugger · 12-10-2005, 11:11 PM

Thats good to hear

MkIXHawk · 14-10-2005, 09:21 PM

Do Smith's do the correct sizes for an 11" Eagle?

DX-SFX · 14-10-2005, 09:40 PM

You're only talking about a few feet of brass for an 11" model so you might just as well use K&S. It would cost you more to drive to one of Smith's branches than anything you were likely to save.

DX-SFX · 28-05-2006, 10:57 PM

I found the brass tube and other metal sections in Slough B&Q this week. It's a broad range of (expensive) stock which they carry which is good but they're all metric sizes which for an imperial Eagle, isn't.

10-10-2005, 09:13 PM	#1
Big Rab Communications Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ayrshire "Sunny" Scotland Posts: 782	framework When looking for Brass Tubing, for the 44" model, dont forget to check out B&Q. it has got a good stock of brass parts including tubing it has only 2.0mm, 4.0mm and 6.0mm thin wall stuff (0.5mm) but it can be used for lots of framework sections, apart ftom the spine and main cage (jig rails) this saving LOADS of cash in your build up!! perhaps its just me being Scottish but every little helps __________________ And so say we all.

10-10-2005, 09:48 PM	#3
Big Rab Communications Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ayrshire "Sunny" Scotland Posts: 782	B&Q honest Yip, B&Q. the 6mm x 0.5mm is £3.98 per Meter. i just got 10 meters of the stuff but will have to go to Smiths metals for the other 8m of the thick wall tube for important parts. __________________ And so say we all.

11-10-2005, 01:13 PM	#5
Big Rab Communications Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ayrshire "Sunny" Scotland Posts: 782	I intend to build the 44" version. i know that the dimentions of the metal are not exactly correct, they should be 3/16" = 4.78mm , 1/4" = 6.35mm and 5/16" = 7.93mm. however, i will have to use the 4mm (or find some 5mm) ,6mm and 8mm Brass simply because to buy it from "smiths metals" would cost a fortune at over £10 per meter this would put the total cost of this model way out of my reach. so for my first scratch build i gota do what i gota do. __________________ And so say we all.

11-10-2005, 03:45 PM	#8
Big Rab Communications Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ayrshire "Sunny" Scotland Posts: 782	Thanks for the info guys i hope that you are right about the price. When i get back home from work, i will post a copy of "Smiths metals" replys to my price request just to show you what they told me. __________________ And so say we all.

11-10-2005, 08:50 PM	#9
Big Rab Communications Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ayrshire "Sunny" Scotland Posts: 782	here are parts of the 2 replies i got from Smiths.......... I think i better give them a phone! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4mm od x .5mm wall 1 x 3.84 mtr length @ £9.11 per meter 6mm od x 1mm wall 1 x 3.7 mtr length @ £10.54 per meter 8mm od x 1mm wall 1 x 3.35 mtr length @ £12.54 per meter ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- re our quote regarding brass tube 4mmod x .5mm wall etc the price i quoted is correct at £9.11 PER METER. regards Jenny Webb ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________ And so say we all.

10-10-2005, 09:24 PM	#2
DX-SFX Chief Medical Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,094	B&Q stock brass tube?

10-10-2005, 10:04 PM	#4
DX-SFX Chief Medical Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,094	What scale are you planning to build at?

11-10-2005, 02:01 PM	#6
shrugger Eagle Pilot Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Great and Terrible Columbus, Ohio Posts: 504	OUCH! You might try http://www.specialshapes.com/ Even with shipping to Scottland I can't see it coming to even half that

11-10-2005, 02:09 PM	#7
DX-SFX Chief Medical Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,094	That's definitely wrong. I bought ninety feet of tube for under £55. Remember it's sold by weight at Smith's. They must be quoting you for rod but even then that's wrong. Maidstone Engineering Services can supply 1/4" brass rod for under £1 a foot and they're slightly more expensive than Smith's. http://www.maidstone-engineering.co.uk/fs.htm Click on "Materials" and scroll not quite half way down.

11-10-2005, 08:55 PM	#10
DX-SFX Chief Medical Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,094	You might find the correct imperial size is a lot cheaper.

12-10-2005, 06:22 PM	#11
Big Rab Communications Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ayrshire "Sunny" Scotland Posts: 782	Phoned Smiths today and got new prices for Imperial size tubes........ 1/4" is half the price of the 6mm. so it is looking better already. __________________ And so say we all.

12-10-2005, 07:03 PM	#12
DX-SFX Chief Medical Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,094	That sounds better. They don't stock really weird sizes (and metric is still weird to Smiths despite their catalogue) so they probably have to order in a certain quantity. From memory all their metal comes in to them in 20 ft lengths or so. They'll cut stuff down into manageable lengths for getting into a car, free of charge but don't go mad or they will charge you for cutting.

12-10-2005, 11:11 PM	#13
shrugger Eagle Pilot Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Great and Terrible Columbus, Ohio Posts: 504	Thats good to hear

14-10-2005, 09:21 PM	#14
MkIXHawk Communications Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 1,449	Do Smith's do the correct sizes for an 11" Eagle?

14-10-2005, 09:40 PM	#15
DX-SFX Chief Medical Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,094	You're only talking about a few feet of brass for an 11" model so you might just as well use K&S. It would cost you more to drive to one of Smith's branches than anything you were likely to save.

28-05-2006, 10:57 PM	#16
DX-SFX Chief Medical Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 9,094	I found the brass tube and other metal sections in Slough B&Q this week. It's a broad range of (expensive) stock which they carry which is good but they're all metric sizes which for an imperial Eagle, isn't.

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