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Old 16-09-2005, 07:47 PM   #1
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What Eagle projects are you all currently working on? Nothing here personally - but I'm sure there's lot's going on out there.

I'll be buying one of the moonbase kits soon in order to paint up one or two of those 'micro' eagles!
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Old 16-09-2005, 08:36 PM   #2
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I am thinking of building some 'mini' versions of dioramas using the Konami Eagle models, possibly based on some of the larger Eagle dioramas I bave built over the last few years.
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Old 16-09-2005, 09:30 PM   #3
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I really like the dioramas you do (having bought one from you - (in a roundabout way) some time ago.

Keep up the good work
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Old 17-09-2005, 01:18 PM   #4
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link to my 88" Eagle. I'm working on the rear cage and spine. Pics will follow asap. See my posts on British Invasion.

http://www.starshipmodeler.net/cgi-b...ic.php?t=30104

http://public.fotki.com/skyhopper/ea...h_scale_2.html

Side pods are in the pipeline too, but I'm not sure yet which construction method I will use (massive wood, wood and metal (center part with prong), aluminium?. Will give You the details when I took the final decision. First I will put together the cages and the spine and see the final weight of the frame and bells.
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Old 17-09-2005, 01:49 PM   #5
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Feel welcome to start your own thread here about your great-looking build. That's what this specialist board is all about!!!
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Old 18-09-2005, 01:03 AM   #6
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I'm about 90% done on a massive rebuild of an AMT 1999 release of the Eagle (is there any other way to build that kit?).

I ended up completely scratching the connecting corridors and cages, made an internal door pattern and cast multiple copies so there are doors in every conceivable spot (3 on the superstructure, 1 on command module, 2 on the passenger pod). I suppose I could have just bought the Warp kit... but since I had 5 unbuilt AMT Eagle kits I figured it would keep me busy and its a lot more fun than putting together an out of the box Warp kit.

Have made a cargo pod, and scratch built a nuclear (pronounced nuke-u-ler here in the States) waste cannister. I have resin cast 8 copies and am working on the decals for them.

Finishing up a booster pod passenger module. Haven't made the patterns for the damn RCS thrusters .... it's the last hurdle.

I've got some pictures of the early work, eventually will get some pics of the completed monster project.

Will probably start on either a Rescue pod next, or scratch build a set of spine boosters (yeah, Jim Small's kit is awesome, but we're back to the pride of doing it yourself thing).

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Old 18-09-2005, 01:12 AM   #7
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Nothing wrong with doing it yourself. If we all built the same kits the same way, where would the joy of owning something unique come from?
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Old 22-09-2005, 07:06 PM   #8
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OK ... I've now decided to drop my plan about getting Chris' drawings copied to 200 % ... (eventhough my friend could get the price down, it would still cost me 3 times as much as the drawings) .....

So no need to delay the building the the drawings...

Let's get started.

I plan on starting on the pod and shoulderpods, until I can find some brass.

I hate wotking in perspex, so I plan to make the structure of the pod in 5mm MDF (or some kind of hard wood), then drilling and cutting away as much as possible, without losing integrety, and then plate it with 2mm styrene.

Does that sound like a way to go? I know It'll be heavy .. but it's not like I'm going to spin it around in my livingroom, making "whooooosh"-sounds .... ok .. perhaps a bit ... but not overdo it

The missus and I are going to a DIY store tomorrow, looking for some new tiles. I'll look for some MDF or hard wood when I'm there .... I'f everything goes well, I could be ready to start construction of the pod next week.

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Old 22-09-2005, 09:22 PM   #9
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Out of interest, Daniel can supply the drawings printed at 44" size to special order but you'll have to talk to him directly about prices etc.
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Old 23-09-2005, 06:00 AM   #10
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Thanks Chris.

Didn't know that.

Oh well, it was just a crazy idea. There is no problem in working with 1:2 scale drawings .... My better half is a mathteacher, so I think I'm able to multiply by 2

Could I get some feedback on the mdf idea? Is it a way to go, or just crazy. Just want to know, before I go buy mdf today.

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Old 23-09-2005, 08:33 AM   #11
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If you want my honest opinion I'd say avoid MDF. It's heavy and swells with changes in humidity. It's nice and easy to work with for making master patterns as you can sand it to shape and then soak it in thin superglue before final sanding with fine wet and dry but I've seen two models made with the stuff and they both weighed a ton. Although more expensive, I'd be more inclined to use aero quality birch plywood. It's lighter and stronger and dimensionally stable and would make a better base to clad in plastic. If MDF swells (or shrinks), it will break all the joints in you're plastic shell. The only thing you need to look for when buying is to make sure your plywood is truly flat.

Having said that, you can get ABS and styrene sheet up to 6mm (1/4") + thick.
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Old 23-09-2005, 08:51 AM   #12
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Ok .. thanks Chris

I'll go for some plywood then, I guess.

Have to see, what the DIY store has.

Thanks about the tip on making masters of mdf.

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Old 23-09-2005, 09:39 AM   #13
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The DIY stores will probably only have standard exterior ply. You could use this but what I had in mind was the ply used by the radio controlled aircraft and ship guys. It's not overly important though. I've no idea what your budget or source of supplies is like.
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Old 23-09-2005, 09:49 AM   #14
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ahhh ok ....

Have to look in the Hobbyshop or RC-shop then.

But I'll still take a look in the DIY store, to judge the quality of the plywood they have.


hmmmm budget, good question ... I don't really have one ..... Of course I'm going to spent a fortune on this, but on the other hand I won't cut any corners, that might save me some money, but will result in a lesser end result and quality.


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Old 23-09-2005, 10:27 AM   #15
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I just find the aero quality stuff much nicer to work with. It doesn't splinter the same way that coarse exterior ply can when you cut it. If you've got a small band saw, it's much nicer to work with.
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I know, what you mean about normal ply splintering. Well, I have to see if the DIY-store has some smallfibered hard wood /ply. If not, then I'll have to go look in the hobbyshops.

I know perspex would be the way to go, but I don't have the tools to work with perpsex properly. Also, when I had a small hobbyshop with a couple of friends, where we tried to cut perspex on out Proxxon tablesaw, with popped the fuses twice ... The problem was, that the perspex became so hot, that it melted around the sawblade .. whoops.

So all out Perspex cutting, had to be done by hand ... scribe, scribe, scribe a million times (roughly ), then turn the perspex, and scribe again on the other side ..... and then break the perspex at the scribed line, and sand the broke line ... so you might understand why I HATE perspex

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That reminds me, I'm going to add a tip about cutting perspex in the technical section.
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Old 23-09-2005, 10:53 AM   #18
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Sounds great.

If I could find the proper way to work with perspex, I might use it after all.

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Ok .. thanks Chris

I'll go for some plywood then, I guess.

Have to see, what the DIY store has.

Thanks about the tip on making masters of mdf.

Cheers
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Hi - plywood is very good indeed. For my 44" eagle inner walkway structure I use 9mm plywood. In case You want to build it very thin and lightweight use aviatic plywood of 3 mm. Works very fine too. For my 88" eagel I will use 9 or 12 mm plywood.
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Old 02-10-2005, 05:09 PM   #20
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Following last weekend's little event and going through the photos taken (BTW thanks everyone who volunteered their own photos on disk), I've actually been outside today with the airbrush tweaking some of the blue panelling on my personal passenger pod to more closely match the first 44" model. Although I was very close, there was a bit too much green crept into the mix so I've been going cross-eyed comparing paint mixes and re-doing. I blame working with Photoshop. It's so easy to tweak colours in Adobe that it makes you more likely to tweak colours in real life. If only it were as easy as making a few keystrokes.

Similarly, I'm having the Moonbase Alpha decals redone. I've not only tied down the colour so closely as makes no odds but I've also made up fresh artwork which includes simulating the very slight bleed of the originals. I know, I know. I need to go and get myself a life.

Still a very satisfying day's work.
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