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Old 19-06-2010, 04:43 PM   #1
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Default Were Airfix Eagles used onscreen?

Years ago, I read somewhere that, once Airfix began producing the kit version of the Eagle, they were sometimes used as 'background artists' in episodes of Space:1999. This makes sense to me (I'm thinking particularly of the hangar sequences in S2), but can anyone confirm or deny it?
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Old 19-06-2010, 04:54 PM   #2
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Hmm, dunno if they were used as complete models-but they were certainly used (kit bashed) to make up other models, particularly buildings e.g. the 'Devils Planet' towers (I know as I used to own some of the model parts).
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Old 19-06-2010, 05:04 PM   #3
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This makes sense to me (I'm thinking particularly of the hangar sequences in S2), but can anyone confirm or deny it?
That is a good question. I also thought of the scene in Year 1 "Breakaway" when Koenig is talking to Carter in Flight Control. You can see the Eagle Hangar behind. http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/m.../umhangar.html

However, would the Airfix/MPC Eagle kits have been released in time for the first episode special effects?
http://space1999.net/catacombs/main/epimg/tib4.html
http://space1999.net/catacombs/main/merc/vmmempc.html

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Old 19-06-2010, 07:36 PM   #4
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The Eagles in the background of that particular shot were composed of cutouts of the 22" model. The Eagle going across on the hangar lift was the 22" model itself:

http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/m...meaglem22.html

Blue Moon is right, only parts of the Airfix Eagle model (incorporated into other models) were seen during the television series run, although in the Space 1999 movie "Alien Attack", one can be seen (look under "Observations"):

http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/m...ide/t00aa.html
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Old 20-06-2010, 02:12 AM   #5
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Cylon Raider plastic kits were used in the original Battlestar Galatica series in the Basestar hangars. You might be confusing the two.
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Old 20-06-2010, 02:35 AM   #6
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Cylon Raider plastic kits were used in the original Battlestar Galatica series in the Basestar hangars. You might be confusing the two.
Yes, that I do remember. They looked fine in the shots.

I wonder in the scene in Year 1 "Breakaway" when Koenig is talking to Carter in Flight Control. You can see the Eagle Hangar behind.
http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/m.../umhangar.html
Is it possible that is a detailed Airfix/MPC Eagle being carried in the Hangar?

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Old 20-06-2010, 01:41 PM   #7
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No for two reasons. One, they're photographic cutouts of the 22" model and two, the kit wasn't released until at least a year after the sequence was shot.
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No for two reasons. One, they're photographic cutouts of the 22" model and two, the kit wasn't released until at least a year after the sequence was shot.
DX-SFX, thanks for answering that question.
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Old 21-06-2010, 05:54 AM   #9
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Although the eagle kit was released later; I should think that the effects team had prerelease examples direct from Airfix for use on season 1, remembering that these molds were actually from MPC.
1975 is the year stamped on my original mint boxed example of this kit.
Kit releases are always contentious. Tamiya's classic 88mm is marked as 1970. Although as the original molds were destroyed in a fire before the kit hit the shelves. The kit actually didn't arrive in stores in quantity until 1972.
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Old 21-06-2010, 10:46 AM   #10
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Although the eagle kit was released later; I should think that the effects team had prerelease examples direct from Airfix for use on season 1, remembering that these molds were actually from MPC.
1975 is the year stamped on my original mint boxed example of this kit.
Kit releases are always contentious. Tamiya's classic 88mm is marked as 1970. Although as the original molds were destroyed in a fire before the kit hit the shelves. The kit actually didn't arrive in stores in quantity until 1972.
The effects for the first show were started in November 1973 (not a typo). Evenso, why would you think the FX crew would have pre-release copies of the kit? Why would it being MPC make a difference? The kit was released on both sides of the Atlantic way after the show had been shot.
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Old 21-06-2010, 05:11 PM   #11
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The tree's were produced by MPC, all Airfix did was package them up.
It is possible that some of these were shipped to the studio before they went to Airfix?
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The tree's were produced by MPC, all Airfix did was package them up.
Really, I guess that is a joint production of this kit.
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The tree's were produced by MPC, all Airfix did was package them up.
It is possible that some of these were shipped to the studio before they went to Airfix?
Yeah, you're probably right.
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The tree's were produced by MPC, all Airfix did was package them up.
It is possible that some of these were shipped to the studio before they went to Airfix?
So is it possible? If only Brian Johnson was an ETF member.
http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/m...c/vmmempc.html

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Old 21-06-2010, 11:49 PM   #15
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Yes, it's possible that Airfix/MPC kits were used if you contrive a story to justify kits being given to the FX crew two years before it was officially released and you believe they managed to disguise them sufficiently well that not a single person has managed to spot one in thirty five years. I confess I've never seen one so they either did a good job or I'm unreasonably wedded to the far simpler theory that they never used them because the kit wasn't yet made.
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Do you really think they mass produced
eagle kits BEFORE the first season was broadcasted ?

Without any clue of its success ?

I don't think so.

Look at what happened to Star Wars, almost a year after its release
in may 1977, people were not even able to buy the toys for their kids,
it took months before they started to produce some action figures
and other X-wings.

I know it, i was waiting for mine !
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Old 22-06-2010, 01:09 AM   #17
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So we can agree that this is not a detailed Airfix/MPC Fundimensions Eagle kit?

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Old 22-06-2010, 01:18 AM   #18
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Do you really think they mass produced
eagle kits BEFORE the first season was broadcasted ?

Without any clue of its success ?

I don't think so.

Look at what happened to Star Wars, almost a year after its release
in may 1977, people were not even able to buy the toys for their kids,
it took months before they started to produce some action figures
and other X-wings.

I know it, i was waiting for mine !
As odd as it sounds I owned the Dinky Eagle Transporter way BEFORE the show was transmitted (even the box art had the phrase Space 1999 coming soon!" on it) so yes it is conceivable that the MPC kit versions were also created prior to the shows launch maybe just not released to the market...as a Gerry Anderson show the toy market would have jumped at the Eagles as all other prior Anderson merchandise sold well. But as there is zero evidence of this I have to go with common sense and side with DX-SFX that had they been used in the series (as Eagles) we would have spotted them a LONG time ago.

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Old 22-06-2010, 01:27 AM   #19
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So we can agree that this is not a detailed Airfix/MPC Fundimensions Eagle kit?
Yep i agree, and the ones in the back are all cutouts from black and white
photos from the same model like this one below :

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Yep i agree, and the ones in the back are all cutouts from black and white
NeoGoglu, great post of your computer with the photo example.
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