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Old 03-10-2007, 02:08 AM   #1
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I aquired this week from Comet Miniatures a UNCL 18" Thunderbird kit. First I want to say this is a grail kit and one I have wanted since I first saw TB3 on screen in the sixties. It is well thought out and cast- the only problem is the panel separation lines are somewhat soft and I am rescribing them some.
The big question is what is the correct PMS color for this ship. I have gone through a bunch of references and it appears to be different colors of red & red-orange depending on the lighting used. Right now a 'Tomato Red' seems to be the most common color in screen grabs.
What are your opinions about this? Of those who have already built this model what paint did you use? My airbrush is in need of repair so hopefully there might be a rattlecan out there that would be acceptable. It will be a while before I will be at the painting stage, but I would like to get everything ready for that monent.

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Old 03-10-2007, 03:00 AM   #2
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Pictures of the kit when you can. The colour of these craft is one of the eternal questions of the Universe (certainly the Century 21 universe) so I look forward to hearing some of the answers as well. They shouldn't be long in coming.
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Old 03-10-2007, 08:01 AM   #3
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I built the UNCL 12" kit many years ago and I found Humbol satin red to be quite a good match as it has a slightly orange tint to it. Howeverr depending on the photos you see it ranges from very orange to pillar box red (i prefer somewhat in the middle of that range). I think you really need to pick a colour you are happy with and go with it.

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Old 03-10-2007, 08:40 AM   #4
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Welcome aboard Richard.

I don't think anyone can quote a specific colour reference but most of the good quality colour photos from the time suggest something erring towards orange.
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Think I used either Humbrol gloss orange or automotive rattle can VW Orange for mine - can't remember right now. May be slightly 'too' orange though...
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:03 PM   #6
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TB3 seemed to start off reasonably mid-tone orange, but appeared to get darker and redder for the movie. I prefer the earlier colour myself.
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:48 PM   #7
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I will take some pictures of the kit parts tonight and post them. The nice thing is it's size- it is big enough to hold surface details and wearthering panels will really make it shine. I am planning on using the 'graphite' method as done on a lot of the original filming miniatures.
It is the same size as the Product Enterprises/Iconic Replica's version but it does not cost $800!
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:16 AM   #8
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Below are some shots I just took- the camera's batteries went down before I could get some close-ups of the surface detail. The red grid is .1" stripes in a 1"x1" grid for size reference. There are more parts than shown, I just set up the major ones.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...B3-Parts-1.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...B3-Parts-2.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...B3-Stacked.jpg

Tomorrow after I get some new batteries I will take some more detailed shots.
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I'm not sure of the correct colour, Pantone or otherwise, but somehow I have a strange sense of foreboding...

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Old 04-10-2007, 04:12 AM   #10
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Either the color saturation is whacked or Lady Penelope has a new ride.
Pictures of the PE-IR TB3 on FABGEARUSA.com show a more traditional color.

http://fabgearusa.com/ltd_edition_th...3_diorama.html

If that is a true color of a production replica from PE-IR then their days are numbered...
(actually they may be already with this new direction they are taking- but that is another topic entirely)
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I think that would make it FAB 3 (1 the car, 2 the boat) which is rather Ironic... Ironic replicas???
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If that is a true color of a production replica from PE-IR then their days are numbered...
Ah, just kidding of course.
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You sure?
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:38 AM   #14
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Ironic replicas

I like that, nice one.
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Ironic replicas

I like that, nice one.
Mmm, I've been biting my tongue on that for some time. Glad someone else can take the blame now !
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Hi Richard
Thanks for the comments about the kit. It is hard to believe I have been making them for about six years. I quite agree about the panel lines, hopefully my scribing technique has improved since then.
Anyway... Colour, I have used Peugeot "seville" car paint on all the built display TB3s, that includes the model used in the Iconic Replicas promotional photos. While I don't claim this is the definitive colour I think it comes close. One thing for sure, TB3 is not red. At the bottom of the engines there is a red ring and this can be used for comparison. I'll look forward to seeing photos of the finished model.
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Mmm, I've been biting my tongue on that for some time. Glad someone else can take the blame now !
I think it may have been floating around quite a few minds actually.
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:19 AM   #18
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Thanks Uncle Bill- I am trying to locate 'Peugeot seville' right now but it is a very rare color- I just sent an eMail to http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/ support to see if they can help or know what the matching Pantone PMS number might be.
This is a wonderful kit with a lot of the details many aer unaware of. The 'loops' on the leading edges of the outrigger suppports is one detail usually gotten wrong- they turn them into fins or ridges- I was delighted to not only find them properly rendered but even the right thickness. The hull scribing is easy to clean up- I am not going for a real heavy plate look but I do wish to weather this up like the original filming model.
Do you have any images of the ones you have assembled? I would be interested in seeing how you worked this kit up.

It is a grail kit and I am so happy to have finally gotten a accurate representation of this craft. I have had a lot of bad ones over the years and was amazed how out of proportion most kits were. I don't want to paint this the wrong color, but it is a weird color to match.
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:45 AM   #19
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I'm pretty sure that is a colour that Halfords produce. You may want to track down to Halfords.

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Yes, Halfords/Duplicolor do it.
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