TV21 Dalek film

[Exterminator]

Originally Posted by Captain Sci-Fi

How about a nice Dalek Saucer?

There it is ... just under the Dalek cup!!



I'll get me coat ... again!!

[Exterminator]

I've started cleaning up the holes, backing and fixing the panels in place.



That's the first four panels done, I've also run the "Plastic Weld" along the panel joints, the whole structure is becoming quite rigid now.



I hope to get the other four done tonight!

[TV21Dalek]

Still suffering from jetlag but WOW!!!

[clanger68]

Fantastic stuff.

I think I'm really going to like these Daleks, taller and sleaker than the movie Daleks but still with their essence.

Love the Dalek Saucer, it might just work! LOL

Great build diary as always, hope the Dalek hemi-holes aren't driving you mad!

Can't wait to see what you do with the Blake's 7 mini film, test footage looks great.

As Avon said to Dorian; "what did you do in your spare time!"

Andy

[Exterminator]

Thanks!!

Originally Posted by clanger68

... hope the Dalek hemi-holes aren't driving you mad!

Not yet, but I'm working on it!! Have a look at the last photo I posted - looking from the bottom upwards, the "holes" in the three front panels slowly drift out of alignment with the other ones, so that the top row is noticeably lower. I suppose I could try to live with it ... no, there's only one thing to do - rip 'em out and re-make them!

The base section.



A nice bit of thick ABS cut and smoothed into the right shape. The dimensions of this top "plate" are 15mm smaller than they should be all the way around.



There's the finished and corrected skirt section in place.



I've made the bottom of the base out of 6mm MDF. To get the right shape, I drew around the top "plate". I then took a small piece of scrap ABS and drilled a hole big enough for my pencil to fit, with its centre 15mm from its edge, and ran it around the edge of the "plate", adding the "missing" 15mm perimeter.



Here's the two parts, spaced out with wood and bits of MDF and screwed together, at this stage it just requires some small 6mm MDF spacers to be attached to the underside of the base to make it the exact height.



Two 55mm high lengths of thin ABS strip were then added. For each one, I half hammered in a small tack (to stop movement whilst fixing) and used hot glue to hold them in place.



The strips are 15mm short of the top "plate", so there's a great big void - this is where the curve will be. I also glued some waste bits of slightly thicker ABS to the insides of the sides and back to add support and stiffening.



I've filled the void with rolled-up bits of newspaper, and what I'll do next is paint it with PVA glue. Once this has hardened, I can add a (relatively) small amount of filler and get the correct curve. I've used this technique before when I was building the TV21 Emperor Dalek's shoulder section.



That's what I've got so far.

Originally Posted by clanger68

As Avon said to Dorian; "what did you do in your spare time!"

If I'm not doing it, I'm thinking about it!!

[TV21Dalek]

Dear God Phil... I can't believe this is actually taking shape like my CGI model... I'm... speechless!

[FALLINGSTAR]

Interesting work!

[TV21Dalek]

So that Exterminator and others can get an idea of the design style for the props and sets here are my CG models of monitor screens and the odd piece of wall furniture.

[TV21Dalek]

And here is the standard Dalek saucer







It's based on the Jennings version from the first half of the TV21 Dalek run... Turner saucers changed more frequently than my gf's moods

[TV21Dalek]

And if they help here are the mesh versions

[TV21Dalek]

And once the Dalek is completed it will look like this

[Captain Sci-Fi]

Originally Posted by TV21Dalek

And here is the standard Dalek saucer







It's based on the Jennings version from the first half of the TV21 Dalek run... Turner saucers changed more frequently than my gf's moods

Hi Guys,

Lathe is standing by.... Me see me want..

Could you throw some dimension over the saucer please?

Cap'n

[TV21Dalek]

The model size would be up to Exterminator I'm afraid, but I'm happy someone else will be building something

[Exterminator]

Well, it looks like it’s my turn to say “WOW”!!! Iain, that’s top work!!

It looks like I’ve got some keeping up to do, so I’d better get on with it!!

I’m going to leave applying any filler for as long as possible, as the temperature is still not quite high enough for my liking. As I’m now working upwards, I’ve started the “shoulder” section. Unlike its “classic” TV and Movie cousins, this Dalek’s shoulders are a regular conical shape.

First thing was to make the top and bottom, and space them apart.



A very thin sheet of ABS was then rolled around the basic structure, being glued on with “Plastic Weld” as it went.



When all was set, the excess ABS sheet was trimmed off.



There are two 22mm tall bands that run around the lower part of the shoulders, so I marked their positions and stuck small rectangles of scrap ABS to act as spacers. The bands will be the right thickness, but I will be able to use thinner ABS to achieve “the look”, so it will be easier to bend it into position.



Here’s the obligatory “stack ‘o’ bits” shot:



A couple of notes:

The shoulder section is actually 2mm shorter than the plan, but the bottom belt is going to extend 2mm over the base, so the final fibreglass castings will cover the join between the shoulders and the skirt section (as on the TV And Movie Daleks).

The unclad shoulder section looks a little too high, but that’s good – there’s a maxim amongst Dalek builders that if the bare shoulders look a little too tall, then they’re about right, so I’m happy with that.

Originally Posted by Captain Sci-Fi

Could you throw some dimension over the saucer please?

Originally Posted by TV21Dalek

The model size would be up to Exterminator I'm afraid, but I'm happy someone else will be building something

Wow, that would be great!! My current requirement would be for quite a small one, say with a diameter of 100mm, but “you never know”, I might need a bigger one in the future … !!!

[TV21Dalek]

ooh ooh ooh... I just wet myself!!

When I posted the render of the Dalek in plain grey I was hoping he would look like that... and by God he does!!

You're a flamin' genius!

I'll work out some basic building design ideas for the tracking station this week.

I was looking at the console and for this to work as a 'lost' Supermarionation concept I think the controls need to be the cooker knobs and big levers so common in the likes of Stingray and Thunderbirds. Luckily these Daleks have claws so knobs and switches are a more logical design. What do people think?

[Exterminator]

“Check out my dangly tool” – not a phrase you’ll find too often on the Eagle Transporter Forum!!

I need to create the two collars, so I made a guide tool that is parallel with the side of the shoulders, with holes drilled that correspond with the lines I’ve drawn.



Good old cereal packets! I chopped a couple up and wrapped them around the outside of the shoulders.



Using a pen in the holes of my guide tool, I could move the whole thing around the shoulders and draw the necessary lines!



A bit of careful cutting, and I had my two collar templates.



I stuck the templates to a sheet of ABS with double-sided tape, gently knifed around them and flexed them out, and this is what I’ve got.



These photos show the collars held together with masking tape and roughly plonked in position. The shoulder/skirt join is hidden, and the shoulders will sit slightly lower down on the finished items.



Next – the gun and arm box.

[TV21Dalek]

I think the arm box is maybe the one part I may have made overcomplicated :s

This is a great project to be involved with... truly wonderful.

[Exterminator]

Originally Posted by TV21Dalek

I think the arm box is maybe the one part I may have made overcomplicated

I'm about to make it even more so! I've got a plan to make the central convex section of the arm box front removeable so I can hide the bolt(s) that will retain and tension the arm and gun mounting balls. The "hatch" could be held in place either with a small, strong magnet, or failing that, Blu-Tak!!

Below is a cross-section to illustrate what I mean:

[TV21Dalek]

Very clever idea...

One point about a later part of the Dalek - the neck section on mine is solid rather than mesh as on the 'real' Dalek. No-one has to see out from the inside. This should make it easier to build.

I may actually build something myself for this... damn! Bitten by the bug! My Space Battleship Yamato may have to wait, lol

[Exterminator]

Thanks, that will help!!

Another question - how many vertical slats are there around the shoulders? Every time I try and count them I come up with different numbers!!!