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Old 25-02-2008, 10:33 PM   #1
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Default Iconic replicas 23" freighter Eagle

I thought i would start this thread as i have a feeling we will all have a lot to say in the next few weeks,

Lets get started with the big question, How the heck is it going to stay in one piece?
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Old 25-02-2008, 11:23 PM   #2
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I bet there's some 'authentic' strengthening to the plastic spine & pod to hold it all together.

But wouldn't we all be extremely happy it it were a metal spine

Oh is that a pig I just saw fly past the window...

One thing that strikes me though in looking at the shots of the prototype, is that the winch gear is very high - almost touching the spine. I don't remember it being that close in the studio shots.
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Old 25-02-2008, 11:41 PM   #3
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I just checked the Catacombs and the IR winch gear looks just about right.
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Old 25-02-2008, 11:47 PM   #4
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I managed to split the Lab pod (rejected eagle) from the spine and cages with two VERY LARGE and painfull cracks... (its the cleanest way to split them)... i then experimented without the pod..... I think a 23" freighter will have about the same give as the 12" freighter..only scaled up to 23"... i think IR may just get away with it, that spine is engineered to take weight, even in resin!.... lets just hope the spines will be glued to the cages!
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Old 25-02-2008, 11:56 PM   #5
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I think we are all too used to looking at our slightly inaccurate 12" PE freighters.
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Old 26-02-2008, 01:00 AM   #6
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I just checked the Catacombs and the IR winch gear looks just about right.
If you're using the profile shots of Martin Bower's 22" model, I don't think the winch part of the pod is original. I'm not certain but I think Phil Rae might have built that bit. You'd be better using this pic of the 44" taken while shooting "Breakaway":

http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/m...fx/isfxbj6.jpg
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Old 26-02-2008, 01:13 AM   #7
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If you're using the profile shots of Martin Bower's 22" model, I don't think the winch part of the pod is original. I'm not certain but I think Phil Rae might have built that bit. You'd be better using this pic of the 44" taken while shooting "Breakaway":

http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/m...fx/isfxbj6.jpg
I stand corrected.

You are right, looking at the 44" model there is a great deal of difference between the IR and the shooting model.

Makes you wonder if IR didn't make the same mistake that I just did.
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Old 26-02-2008, 01:20 AM   #8
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IR..? Mistake...? Surely not....
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Old 26-02-2008, 01:27 AM   #9
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Makes you wonder if IR didn't make the same mistake that I just did.
Well, they only have to ask. I question the wisdom of whoever they're getting their information from.
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Old 26-02-2008, 01:28 AM   #10
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IR..? Mistake...? Surely not....
Your right, what was I thinking.
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Old 26-02-2008, 01:33 AM   #11
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Well, they only have to ask. I question the wisdom of whoever they're getting their information from.
I think the problem that is becoming evident is that there is little wisdom being used in the production of these replicas.

There seems to be a genuine desire to bring these models to us but little want to make sure they are done correctly.

Sadly it takes just about as much money to make them wrong as it would have to make them right.
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Old 26-02-2008, 01:47 AM   #12
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There seems to be a genuine desire to bring these models to us but little want to make sure they are done correctly.

Let's see if I can narrow it down a little more for ya'....

There seems to be a genuine desire to remove the money from your pocket and zero care for what you get in return.

The key being.....

Removing the money from your pocket. As quickly as possible before the cat's outta the bag.

If they can't get them "correct" after all the obvious research put into them, then you must, obviously, be too stupid to know whether they're correct or not......right?

At least that's what's being banked on.



Every single one of these would have been enormous hits.......

before the internet.

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Sadly it takes just about as much money to make them wrong as it would have to make them right.
Yep.

Actually the no expense spent strategy of plagarising existing garage kits is probably cheaper but I'd have thought the lost sales would more than overwhelm any expense getting a decent set of master patterns made. I say this with no malice but their whole approach seems is a bit amateurish and under invested.
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Old 26-02-2008, 01:54 AM   #14
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I think you're all right. When you actually look at that photo the 12" version comes out pretty well. I'll be brave enough to say that at the price they'll be sold for with a run of only 200, surely they could make a composite resin/ metal spine that would do the job very nicely. The sort of thing Jon did with the AB 44". We're talking about over £300 not a £25 give away. Its not even a run of 1500 for goodness sake, these things should be masterpieces
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Every single one of these would have been enormous hits.......

before the internet.
Excellent point.
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Old 26-02-2008, 08:05 AM   #16
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If they can't get the Lab Eagle right what chance is there that they will ever get the Freighter Eagle right?



If they would bring it out as a kit, well I could ask my 11 year old daughter to build it for me and it would look 100times better then this what you get from IR right now.
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Old 26-02-2008, 10:25 AM   #17
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If they can't get the Lab Eagle right what chance is there that they will ever get the Freighter Eagle right?
I can't wait to see it. I'm intrigued. If they can't get the spine on the Lab Eagle to attach to the cages securely, then maybe when the freighter is released and the customer finally receives it, it's become a Kit! The delicate spine problem is also compounded by the fact that the winch pod (metal?) is supposed to hang solely off it. I wonder if they will make the winch pod and spine inseparable? Either way I suppose this particular Eagle would be the the best candidate for a conversion to a standard Pod removable eagle, which in my opinion, is what IR should have released in the first place.
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Old 27-02-2008, 10:46 AM   #18
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That's the big question, what its attached to? I can't help wondering if the front and rear walkways will be involved somehow
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Old 27-02-2008, 12:39 PM   #19
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A big glob of resin coming out of the walkways and merging with the pod end framework - that'll make it secure
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Old 28-02-2008, 03:32 AM   #20
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Just what they used with the Lab pod.... hey what a cool idea It would of course be funny if there wasn't actually any chance of them not doing just exactly that...
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