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Old 31-05-2008, 11:49 AM   #1
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I was delighted to hear a while back that this model still survives.....

http://www.supermarionation.tv/tbirds/hoverbus.html

but a couple of questions about it

was it used in UFO? Im not sure where I found this pic from on the net, you can see it on the top shelf, that could be a reason why it managed to survive? and it has a different decal on the side than it had in Thunderbirds




and I would love to see some really good quality pics of it, especially the underneath as Im really interested to see how they went about scratchbuilding the chassis on the Thunderbirds models, does anyone know the owner Phil Rae to ask him?

many thanks

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Old 31-05-2008, 11:53 AM   #2
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Isn't he a member here?
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Old 31-05-2008, 02:02 PM   #3
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is he? excellent, if your out there Phil....
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Old 31-05-2008, 11:30 PM   #4
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Phil did own the hoverbus for quite a while, but he sold it a few years ago to a collector in the Birmingham area I believe. I seem to recall seeing some pictures of it somewhere, possibly in one of the Japanese books that came out in the 90s.
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There are several profile pictures of it in a 1992 Japanese ModelArt Thunderbirds book in the Phil Rae Collection pages. The model has a simple flat wooden base with holes cut in for the wheel areas. The chassis seems to be two simple metal axles resting on pieces of foam sponge. There is also a hole with the Jetex tube drilled into the centre.
I listed the only surviving 1960s studio models on part of my site due to receiving numerous questions about them, see here -
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Anyone know of any others then please let me know.

ps The model has 'COACH CO - City Special' down one side and nothing on the other.
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Old 01-06-2008, 11:49 AM   #6
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thanks Mark, thats excellent

so the part of the Coach co is the original, just aged?

and looking at the small pics I never realised it had sponge suspension, it just looked like wood, but now youve mentioned it I can see it

the red truck is interesting also, with it having 4 wheel steering, like Fab 1

I would love to see a pic of the underneath of that if there is any

as I want to make my yellow fire engine replica, which also has 4 wheel steering in the same way that the studio guys did,


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A lot of the vehicles were sprung with foam rubber and we still do today. It gives that lovely soft but damped movement you don't get with springs.
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simplest the best

I just cant see how the axles are actually held on the bus


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As requested -



and the bus



qualities not too good but nice straight side profile

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aahhh so the bus doesnt have 1 axle between the 2 wheels its split and bent, bit like a torsion bar on a real car, great idea


the truck looks like the steering mechanism is brass?


I think I will do my fire engines the same way

btw is the truck body fibreglass?

thanks for the pics Mark

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I can't positively remember but there were a couple of truck models so I would guess they were fibreglass castings.
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yeah I think if you look at the rear end it looks like fibreglass, and as you say if they had 2 identical, will be fibreglass, has the 8 big holes got anything to do with that?

and Id be interested to know how they did the steering hubs

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a propos of nothing in particular, the wheel layout of two front axles and one rear as per |FAB 1 is known as 'Chinese Six'

dunno why
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There's some more discussion about the surviving effects models from post 61 onwards on this thread -

http://www.eagletransporter.com/foru...global+carrier
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excellent,

I should have really called this thread, the underneath of models, as that was the main reason for asking, lucky that some still survive so we can examine,
and luckily there is some shots where you can see how theyve made the chassis , it helps when making replicas

the DT19 airliner from captain scarlet, its wheels attached to a simple axle with bearing, wooden piece sandwiched in by screws



and underneath of a SPV



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just wondering if someone can confirm if the hoverbus was used in an episode of UFO? and if so which episode

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Mike I can't recall it being in one.
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maybe they kept hold of it as it was futuristic and such a nice model that it would have looked good in UFO, or maybe even it was filmed for an episode and was cut?
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I was delighted to hear a while back that this model still survives.....

http://www.supermarionation.tv/tbirds/hoverbus.html

but a couple of questions about it

was it used in UFO? Im not sure where I found this pic from on the net, you can see it on the top shelf, that could be a reason why it managed to survive? and it has a different decal on the side than it had in Thunderbirds





and I would love to see some really good quality pics of it, especially the underneath as Im really interested to see how they went about scratchbuilding the chassis on the Thunderbirds models, does anyone know the owner Phil Rae to ask him?

many thanks

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I've owned pretty much everything that's known to still exist at one time or another...incl. this!
I took quite a few shots of it incl the underside and will try and post them when I can find the energy and locate them (I have over 8000 images in my archive!)
It was last seen in Joe 90 as far as I recall, but that was a stolen cut from Thunderbird 6. Sam's car appears in the same shot.
It didn't have a chassis...made from wood...the u/side is just ply with cut outs for the wheels. and a hole for the Jetex "motor"
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I was delighted to hear a while back that this model still survives.....

http://www.supermarionation.tv/tbirds/hoverbus.html

but a couple of questions about it

was it used in UFO? Im not sure where I found this pic from on the net, you can see it on the top shelf, that could be a reason why it managed to survive? and it has a different decal on the side than it had in Thunderbirds




and I would love to see some really good quality pics of it, especially the underneath as Im really interested to see how they went about scratchbuilding the chassis on the Thunderbirds models, does anyone know the owner Phil Rae to ask him?

many thanks

Mike
OH....I see from the link they'll already posted....my photos too btw....nobody asked me....but hey I LOVE to share
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