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Old 15-02-2006, 10:36 PM   #1
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Old 16-02-2006, 01:55 AM   #2
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They remade Galactica after a few abortive attempts. Good sci-fi can always attract attention when the right proposal comes along.
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:21 AM   #3
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Hi Commander...

via email, years ago, and at the time, did my best to track down Bump Map Studios. In the letter, they gave the address and phone number of Film Australia, who when called know nothing of Bump Map, UFO, or anything like it at all. I tried a few more times to get in contact, but it all seemed to go nowhere.

So I wonder if there was a revival attempt or not. If they was one, from what I heard, there were many closit UFO fans/technitions who would love to see the project up and running. Down here in Aus, our movies are all "hats and horses."

Anyway, thought I might just add my two cents worth...
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Old 24-03-2007, 01:07 PM   #4
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It is certainly a great concept....BUT you would need modern "men (and women !) of VISION"...people like Gerry & Sylvia Anderson, Reg Hill, Dave Lane, Derek Meddings, Barry Gray & co....
And I simply do not think "Modern Television" has that kind of "TV people" anymore....(Shame !)

It would require considerable investment...above all top writers, Directors,etc, and have the strength to avoid all the modern pitfalls of "Political Correctness" etc....that severely limit what goes into Television Production now....look at the mess the big screen versions of old TV favorites almost without exception are !!!

BBC have, in my view, really ruined both "Dr.Who" and "Randall & Hopkirk" in being obsessed with "Modernising" the format for what THEY seem to think is the "Modern Viewer" (only concentrating on a 16 - 24 age range of course....the rest of us don't count...)

Thus any remake of "U.F.O." would need to be independantly made like maybe "Primeval" has been....and aimed at a wide age group....and NOT lose the "spirit" of the original show....a "sequal" series COULD certainly be done...set years after Straker "retired"....as Brian Clemens updated his "Professionals" series with Edward Woodward (only shown on Sky TV tho'....), but somehow I can't ever see it happening.....
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BBC have, in my view, really ruined... "Dr.Who"
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Old 24-03-2007, 06:47 PM   #6
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I rather like the new "Who" and my children love it. I used to belong to a DWAS local group back in the 80's. We still meet up for a reunion each year and on the whole we all love the new series. I expect we will probably meet up the Sunday following the last episode of this series and have a jolly good discussion of all the episodes and a poll like we did last year. This includes one chap who has seen it from the beginning and has supplied audio tapes of 60's episodes to the BBC that he recorded at the time so that they can release CD's of missing stories.

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ps you can diss Torchwood though later episodes did get better...
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Old 24-03-2007, 08:45 PM   #7
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I can understand that some do like the New version of "Dr.Who"....BUT that show could...and really should.... be SO much better, if played in a more serious and exciting style...(as I note the "Big Finish" Audio Adventures series with Paul McGann, plus several older Doctors STILL are....)......in other words a modern updated version quite contemporary...BUT true to the original "spirit" of the programme....

NOT this absurd big "Trendy" BBC jokey version that I suspect is meant to poke fun of older fans....and keep kids thinking down at the laughable level of Aliens who make rude noises, and now have silly rhino faces...and daft names ending in "...Hoon" etc..., plus the new stories are really unconvincing...and done in short quick bursts with ultra convenient "Get out" endings...(How many uses can a sonic screwdriver actually have....?),

I blame the person behind the new version....who has really messed up the show's historical continuity big time....and is, I think, seriously over-rated !!! (Certainly NO Gerry Anderson...!!!!)

I think the new verson of "Dr.Who" is little more than a trendified "spoof" of the show...like how in music Eric Idle and Neil Innes band "The Rutles" were a spoof of The Beatles...BUT never meant to be taken seriously...or attempt to be the "Real thing" at all...

Thus in the event that they ever re-made "U.F.O." I would dread them trying to "ape" the sixties style and miss the "spirit" of the show completely...
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Old 24-03-2007, 09:14 PM   #8
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The old style of show would never have returned to our TV screens - it would have died a death.

I really like the new show - it really does show up the plodding nature of a lot of the old stories. What I have argued in another forum is that it is for a new generation - not us old fogies who grew up on the old one.

I do not think you could disagree with the fact that it is immensely popular and that everyone on it is putting 110% into it.

Personally I was on the edge of my seat watching the Doomsday episode.

Anyhow if you think it is a trendied spoof what's wrong with that It's thoroughly enjoyable and my kids love it and it's there opinon that matters

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Old 24-03-2007, 09:31 PM   #9
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I rather like the new Dr. Who, both actors. And I might be in the distinct minority, but I was glad when Rose left. She grated for some reason. I'm looking forward to the new companion.
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My 6 year old daughter really loved Rose - I'm curious as to how she will react to Martha Jones as a companion to Dr John Smith

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Old 24-03-2007, 09:55 PM   #11
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"The old Style of Dr.Who would have died a death...."
Actually we DON'T know that do we...? that is simply "Modern BBC Talk"...Producer Julie Gardner said something very close to that...BUT she would....(like the meaningless :"Doctor by Numbers" line that a sci fi mag reviewer called Paul McGann's Doctor...and which now gets endlessly quoted....!)

"Primeval" actually was far more in the Older "Dr.Who" style....(Douglas Henshaw's "Prof.Nick Cutter far closer to the character of "The Doctor" than either Tennant or Eccleston in truth...) and this new show was a very big success...given a second series already, out on DVD and picking up a bigger "audience share" overall in it's six episodes than new "Dr.Who" has averaged.....

and do remember...the older 1989 "Dr.Who"show when axed (then at it's poorest....quite deliberatly so by BBC execs intention )...was actually picking up MORE viewers than today's "Smash Hit" version does....

James Bond has just gone right back to his creation...in the hands of Ian Fleming...for "Casino Royale"...getting his "Licence to kill"...with tremendous success , due to the fact that they made a modern version....of the "original" concept...without a gadget in sight....!

It would be most interesting IF they did new Dr.Who storylines true to the "Original Spirit" but updated (as the fine Harrison Ford film and good Tim Daly short lived TV show of "The Fugitive" did...despite the TV show having a silly ending !)
Thus with any older show, like say "U.F.O." or "Avengers" etc....if they lose sight of what was so unique and "special" about the show...you simply get a "Hi-Jacking" of the show's name....
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Old 24-03-2007, 10:23 PM   #12
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I don't understand what you mean by "original spirit"? Please explain as to me it's DW but zippier.

Personally I just about remember Patrick Troughton being the Doctor and have watched it since then. Apart from a period when my brother insisted we watched Buck Rogers on ITV that clashed with it I have barely missed an episode broadcast on BBC1. I have found stories to be engaging and exciting others to be silly and stupid. Some to be lavish but plodding or budget lacking but intriguing. In all of these each actor who played the good Doctor put their own stamp on it. So have Eccleston and Tennant. The old days are gone hoorah! In with the new and someone elses take on it! Why can we not have and enjoy RTD's version of DW? He will hand it over to someone else one day and they will presumably put their own stamp on it. It's back on the telly rejoice, rejoice! One day it may become what you want to watch but it first has to stay in production and that means being POPULAR!

Don't quote me viewing figures from way back whenever as the ball game has changed and the playing field isn't level anymore.

Die a death was my own words I wasn't quoting anybody and I firmly stand by them.

I saw some bits of Primeval and didn't like what I saw. Particularly the sequence where they go into the woods to hunt a future Bat like animal they have difficulty detecting. One of the armed special forces soldiers gets killed. One has a brainwave - I'll go back to my car and get an oscilloscope which will help us detect it. Off he trots on his own and guess what the creature attacks him! Duh bad storytelling these are all supposed to be intelligent scientists and special forces soldiers why the hell did none of them suggest an armed escort?!?!?! Also none of them showed any sort of grief or upset about the soldier being whipped from their midst and presumably ripped to shreds? Bad, bad storytelling I was shouting at the screen...

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Old 24-03-2007, 11:12 PM   #13
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By "spirit" I meant a show that just entertained by having exciting scary stories...not full of "messages" to re-educate viewers into thinking the way the person behind the show wishes them to, with political angles, athiesm and certain stereotypical attutudes against certain parties...and promotion of other parties...just watch the show to see that.(or take a look at the complaint lodged to BBC by some fan who made a very good case...it's on the website)
The question of viewing figures has a relavence, as in one week the new show shed some 3 million viewers when it began...and if a show was deemed so poor pulling 8 million it had to go...surely in a much denser populated time as now pulling 6 million, despite more channels,a valid question can be asked over relative levels of popularity...? (and if I want to quote such things I will...)
The comment "Would have died a death..." I am sure was yours...but I have read it a number of times in sci fi mags and Producer julie Gardner did make such a similar comment...which is why I mentioned it.

Re "Primeval"...well I could site similar instances in BBC Wales show for example a break down lorry can penetrate Tardis defences where Dalek missiles cannot...A sonic screwdriver with a million uses bailing writers out every five minutes, A Doctor who spends an entire episode constructing a device he knows won't work...("Parting of the Ways"),one who acts like an over-excitable Alexi Sayle yelling "Fantastic" every five minutes...and another who keeps on going "I'm So Sorry..." and being so terribly Smug ...!
...or indeed absurd aliens who break wind every five minutes...wot codswallop...!
I have never been that into "Dr.Who" but at least the older show had some reasonable qualities...Davies' cracking weak jokes about the Royals all being werewolves....on the Queen's 80th Birthday weekend was great taste...!

Give me "Space:1999" or "U.F.O." or "Star Trek" and "Primeval" over the farcical show "Dr.Who" now has become any day...
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Old 25-03-2007, 06:22 AM   #14
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One question - you seem to really hate the series - how many episodes have you watched?

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ps I haven't noticed any messages and I like the jokes. It's a fun show and a pleasure to watch in my opinion. One of the few programmes nowadays I look forward to and sit down and watch with my children.
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Old 25-03-2007, 10:55 AM   #15
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All of them....!, I am not a great fan of the show but do not "hate" it at all....I used to watch it on and off years ago, and agree some stories were much stronger than others (true of all shows), yet it seemed to be a straightforward storytelling show....minus all the "mindset messages" it now has...

I actually think David Tennant, given some strong scripts (and less"dabbling" by the person behind the new show), would make a fine Doctor...his "one man" performance in "Satan Pit" was quite excellent !,
but too often he is undermined by having to shout "Hey Ghostbusters !", run about with Olympic torches, and say "Cum on mah bew-tay !...."
I thought "Rise of the Cybermen"/"Age of Steel" and "Impossible Planet"/"Satan Pit" were great stories....until "amendments" were added....

Take a look at the "Dr.Who" fans complaint about the 2005 series to the BBC on the website....he makes a very convincing case re "political bias", "Certain orientation aspects" "bad language" and other aspects....

Chris Eccleston indeed, apparently threw down a script and yelled "Who writes this sh*t....?"
prior to announcing his quick departure - he had previously implied he WOULD be a "Doctor for a whole new generation of kids"....which seems to indicate he DID intend to stay longer....to start with....(?)

The new CGI work is excellent, Nick Briggs does great Dalek & Cybermen voices...the new girl looks promising...
I think with the right "attitude" this show could be magnificent....but due to a certain person's view (which I think actually pokes fun of the programmes older faithful fans....and insults kiddies intelligence with "bad messages")...you end up with a "parody" of the programme...

it really could be so VERY much stronger....
and with Daleks,Cybermen...and credible new foes & deeper stories kids WOULD still love it, I see young kids in HMV and Virgin eagerly snapping up old William Hartnell & Jon Pertwee DVD's....they love em !
(try telling them that old stuff is "dead" Television now)....indeed I once pointed out to some kids in Virgin that the "New" Dr.Who DVD's were on another fixture...."Oh we like the OLDER Dr.Who" they replied....much to my surprise..
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Zico, I really must take issue with you here; at the end of the McCoy years, when the ITV opposition was Coronation Street, the highest rating the show got was around 7.5 million, which in an era of only four channels, was pretty abysmal (the highest rated story ever was T. Baker's City of Death, with 24 m viewers, but as ITV was on strike at the time, 1979, this is an exceptional number), the new series has a stedy 7-8 m viewers, but with a much higher 'appreciation index'- by which a random sample of viewers are asked how much they enjoyed a program- all of new Who has got an AI of above 80%, and an audience share of over 40%, this makes it generally the second or third most watched program on British television week in and week out, only ever beaten by Corrie or 'Stenders.

I think the whole thing is fantastic, and so much better than the continuity bound, corridor tramping, cliffhanger obsessed, stunt casting ridden stuff we used to have!

As I always say, the bottom line is if you don't like it, don't watch it!
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You are entitled to watch what you like...and comment on it surely...?
this is still a freecountry with free speech at the moment isn't it...?
If I don't like an aspect of a show (offfr you don't) we have every right to express that view, don't we...?
The "Thought Police" have not yet taken over...

And I don't really see the validity of defending thre new show by "slagging off" the old one, I am simply saying the new show could be SO very much stronger...and I honestly think it really could (I suspect Chris Eccleston thought so too....)
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Wasn't really 'slagging off' the old one, I watched every episode from Spearhead from Space, right up to Survival, with nothing but joy in my heart, it's just that, IMHO, the new series is soo much better in most respects; no reliance on having seen, say, An Unearthly Child in '63 in order to understand the plot of Rememberance of the Daleks in '89, and although I freely admit that the storys in the new show could do with being two parters, don't forget that part three of most classic four parters were just escape and capture with lots of corridors! And no Hale & Pace or Ken Dodd!

And I wasn't challenging your right to free speech, the very idea of not allowing anyone to voice their views is anathema to me, but that's just my opinion!

Not sure I understand what you mean by 'stronger', the whole running theme of both series seems to be about loss and regret, tinged with anger, can't get much stronger than that...

PS: Pity about the non-show on UFO 2, but I'm sure if it had of happened the opinion would have been just as catalysed as the view on New Who!
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The reason they could "get away" with say tieing in "Remembrance of the Daleks" to 1963 "An Unearthly Child" was probably because the old story had been issued on video (now out on DVD too !)...and indeed in "Satan Pit" Tennant mentions "Daemos" (from Pertwee's tale "The Daemons") plus Sarah Jane & K-9 turn up in "School Reunion"....next it's the Rani (& Master too apparently....aren't ALL the Timelords supposed to be dead...?),
so the newer version does seem to be just as equally "continuity" bound....yes ?

All I am really saying is deeper, more "unfolding" stories (like say "Rise of the Cybermen" or "Impossible Planet" etc) would suit the show much better...and the Doctor needs to get his wits back, and not continally rely on a silly screwdriver to bail him out....even James Bond has dropped the Gadgets in "Casino Royale"....and "gone back...to go forward...")

I never propose a return to the "running up corridors"...(which they really DID do in "Impossible Planet"...in an air vent !)...or silly old comedians (brought in to "kill it off" in 1989 - as Grade & Powell hated the old show...), but a more credible exciting more gripping and more serious stance (as it had with Hartnell, Troughton, Pertwee, Tom Baker, & Davison) but done in a fresh modern contemporary style with strong new scripts and credible decent new foes...would be much better in my opinion.

Back to "U.F.O." - that show, if remade should obviously be updated for today (like Bond has been) but remain true to it's roots...

I would point out that during the "Roger Moore" 70's era of men with metal teeth & lazers in space etc, they said you could NOT go back to the "Connery style" of the OLD Bonds....
But Daniel Craig certainly seems to have proved that wrong....
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The difference in the new series is that a throwawy line means something to the fans, but a whole story relying on the purchase of a video or DVD is actually contrary to the BBCs charter; K9 and SJS were introduced as old friends, no more than that, a way of getting mum and dad excited, not a hidebound excercise in continuity! The Cyberman were completely reinvented in series two, no 'I've fought them a dozen times, from the sewers of London, to the Gold Planet Voga', just 'oh no, not again!' As to the re-emergance of the Timelords, this has been forshadowed, there was a mention of Gallifrey in the Xmas Episode, it's not so much a back reference as a reintroduction... (I don't believe that the Rani is back but as for the Master, well, I'm sure that there's a good dramatic reason for him to be back)

Did you know that Grade has gone on record as admitting to enjoying the new incarnation of the show? Funny old world.

The sonic was killed off in the old series for just the reasons you mention, and whose to say it won't again (cryptic mode off)?

Strangely, I like my escapism to not be all that realistic, sure some depth (which I argue the new Who has in buckets), but if I want kitchen sink stuff, there's always soaps.

(Didn't Bond have an onboard poison antidote machine in his Aston? Funny, as it was just the 'gadget' he needed to get himself out of a fix!)
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