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1:18 scale APC playset

skiffy

Alphans
Ever since the halcyon APC came out, and I tried in vain to scratchbuild an interior, I've been wrestling with the idea of trying to fit the inside into the outside - which everyone knows is impossible in real terms.

Even so, it struck me that it might be possible to do something like the old Mattell Eagle Transporter toys, which are off scale but can still look pretty darn cool, complete with interiors, with skillful customising.

my inspiration has come from several sources including Raytheon's amazing 1/16th scale APC with full interior, Darren's 50 inch scratchbuilt Eagle, and all the brilliant Mattell Eagle conversions seen on these pages.

I've been working out how one might fit in all the gear we see in the interior set, without making the outside monstrously over-sized. It's a tricky compromise, but I think I've got pretty close. Having a few 1:18 scale figures to hand has helped while I block out the main shapes in card. I know there are aliens figures available at this scale but the eBay prices are just silly.

The wheel arches have been slimmed down considerably to make the interior bigger, and I have a cunning plan which should still allow the wheels to turn.

I don't know how far I'll take this past the card mock-up stage, but it will be fun to see how close I can get to the live action set, certainly as far as the larger fittings goes. I know I can get all Gorman's display screens in there, plus his chair, and get all the characters sat where they're supposed to be. Of course there's no room for an engine, but hey, this is a playset, right?

You can see the seating arrangement in the back there and the overall scale of the APC.



Another view showing the rough dimensions.



I should be able to get everyone sat in here - with room for Hudson to walk about.



View of the main doorway from outside.

 

Transporter

Alphans
Hey Skiffy! How funny, that we are working on somewhat similar projects without talking to each other for some time. I am working on a 1/24 scale Ultra Probe interior and until now managed quite well to fit the design of the life-size set into the 1/24 scale UP CM (DITS). As soon as I have pics, I will open a new thread. Please go on with your great work!
 

wappynutter

Alphans
Gonna be a cool play set Skiffy mate..
Looks to be off to a good start too.:thumbup:
Look forward to more updates sir.:yes:
Regards Andy...
 

Steve Gerard

Alphans
Awesome idea!:thumbup: This is something that should have been merchandised when the film was released in 1986. :think:
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skiffy

Alphans
Hi Transporter - Thanks for the kind words. Weird coincidence indeed! I look forward to seeing your Ultra Probe interior build.

Wappynutter - Thanks Andy! I'm keen to make more progress as soon as poss.

Steve Gerard - I totally agree. There are multiple lego builds available and a handful of Halcyon kit customs around the net, but nothing at or near this scale apart from Raytheon's 1:16 scratchbuild.

It'll be cool to recreate some scenes from the film once I've got the basic layout done. I may adapt some of my 1:18 figures to look more like Colonial Marines, but that's a whole other project.
 

skiffy

Alphans
A little more progress this morning.



From left to right - there's Ripley and Burke sat by the door, then room for our squad of 8 marines, then Gorman sat on a temporary bench, where he can see all 12 video screens on his display. That bench actually goes at bottom left of camera, and provides another two seats. Then there'll be Apone's seat behind the driver (where Newt hides for safety while Ripley is driving).

The walls look tall here, but they will slope inward towards the top, and there'll be a lot of stowed gear and equipment mounted on the ceiling.

Basically the size of the whole interior was governed by how I could get those 8 marines sat facing each-other in two rows of four - inside the width of the wheel wells.

Right then, squad. You heard the man and you know the drill - a$$holes and elbows!
 

skiffy

Alphans
I completely forgot about this when it got packed away following a workshop re-structure (as you do). I've just now got it out again and after four years it still has my interest. Hiya Toys have released something similar last year but it couldn't fit 8 marines in the back - not that I could see anyway.



How many drops is this for you Lieutenant?

 

skiffy

Alphans
Thanks Ham!

I spent a couple of hours building a scaled pulse rifle in 3d and printing it out. I tried a couple of available models online but they weren't suitable for printing.



The print is in two halves which get glued together - just like a regular model kit.



I threw a little paint on it - just any old primer color - to show the detail/scale with a scalpel blade.



Yeah - it's a little rough but it'll do the job for now. I'll do a more detailed one later.
 

skiffy

Alphans
It has even got all the holes in!

Indeed! Though the glue and paint have gummed them up in this first prototype.

I've made a little more progress. I've worked out the angles for the front plates.

My APC is a little taller (in proportion) than the regular shape - about 10% - which helps allow the figures to stand inside it. That's made the working out a little more fiddly but it's done now.

 

skiffy

Alphans
So, after a lot of sketches based on screenshots, blueprints and references such as Hiya Toys upcoming APC model, I'm ready to start cutting styrene.



I've started marking out the base-plate now I have some styrene sheets large enough to use (A3).

 

skiffy

Alphans
Thanks CB - I'm looking at the long haul with this project but hoping a 'little and often' approach will yield good results.

I've mostly got the interior and exterior sorted so after the outer shell is about 50% I'll start placing interior elements.
 

skiffy

Alphans
I printed out a better copy of the pulse rifle with a longer stock so it's easier for my Apone stunt double to hold and painted up the old one.



I'll print up a few more of these and paint them up properly.
 

skiffy

Alphans
A little progress.





The driver is sat a little high since he's in the card mock-up of Gorman's chair and while the driver's position does use the same chair - I'll be seating it lower down to give him a proper eye-line out of the window.



Took some pics tonight of the general layout so far. I'm working out how to trim these panels to get all the angles to work (definitely a WIP at the moment).







 
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skiffy

Alphans
I got the temp guys and some card interior fitments out to check on layout. That rear bulkhead wall needs to come forward to the edge of Gorman's console to get all four guys comfortably placed along the rear left side.

These temp guys have very broad shoulders for their scale so if they fit, I know (hopefully) a 'proper' Aliens figure will. :)

Also, the temp cardboard benches are too long and stick out the back. They're from an earlier test build.





 

skiffy

Alphans
More progress. I've been putting off doing more work on the front because of all those plates and angles but - winners never quit and quitters never win so...







This is starting to look something like it ought to now. I'm happy with how that door turned out - it just needs a final file/sand and then I can think about details later.

Next, on to the front gun platform and windows.
 
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