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Old 09-08-2007, 01:43 PM   #1
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I think this is the right place to put this. I am very pleased. Today I picked up my copy of 2010. I had 2001 on order, but they let me down. However, in another DVD shop I found a "three pack" with Blade Runner (Director's cut) 2001, and The Island (not in the same league, but still a good flick) That's three disks for $24 AU. So, I have some good viewing ahead.

BTW, is the Director's cut of Blade Runner better or worse than the original?
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Old 09-08-2007, 04:27 PM   #2
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Depends who you ask.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:52 PM   #3
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I'll clarify. I personally believe that Blade Runner has a following because of the original theatrical version, which was the only version available for a decade. When it was released in the summer of 1982, it was a flop. A huge flop. But, with VHS video on the rise, it made a comeback and became popular. I don't think nearly as many people would have fallen in love with the director's cut -- and it might likely just be a forgotten film, had it been released in the later incarnation(s).

Purists will say it should be the director's vision, but I'll say that sometimes the producers are correct in asking for changes. I like the first version and I'm siding with the producers.

That's just my personal feeling about it.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:56 PM   #4
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I've never understood the following this film has had and the obsession with the PKD gun. It's quite stylish and visually lush but I think it's highly overated as a film. It's good but not that good, a bit like the Harry Potter films. Obviously it just doesn't hit the mark with me the way it does with other people (not enough spaceships ).
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:06 PM   #5
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Well, it does have a big metal zeppelin and flying cars.
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:43 PM   #6
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I personally prefer the theatrical version of Blade Runner, although I like the ending of the director's cut better.

I got 2010 recently, and really enjoyed it. I found the SFX quite refreshing after the CGI mush of the recent Star Wars trilogy. I would say the same of Outland, which I watched the other night. Great miniature work in that film, and a very strong sense of realism. I'd love to know how they created Jupiter.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:58 AM   #7
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I'd love to know how they created Jupiter.
In Outland or in 2010?

I'd love to tell you how they did it for both films, but I don't honestly remember, and my old Starlogs, Fantastic Films and other mags are in storage. Anyone else care to field this one?
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:01 AM   #8
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Don't know how they did it in Outland, but was it CGI in 2010?
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:15 AM   #9
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Was CGI good enough to look that good onscreen back in the '80's? I didn't think that it was. I would venture a guess that it was animated, in the traditional 'painted' way as opposed to with a computer.
But I may be completely wrong. Won't be getting to storage for those magazines for at least a few days, so I can't confirm anything that way.
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:22 AM   #10
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I like Bladerunner and did so already at it's theatrical release. I don't mind the Director's Cut version, but am happy with original one also (except that I also the end is better in the DC version).

The dark, rainy, multicultural, somewhat decadent future Los Angeles is done in an excellent way. And the sense of a 30s-40s detective tale set in the future works too. But for many people, and that includes me, what tops it off is the soundtrack by Vangelis and the rest of the futuristic soundscape mixed into that.

Anyways Tony, congrats on purchasing 2001/2010! I wish you many happy viewings. Agree completely with cdrtravis above about models as compared to the recent Star Wars films.
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Jupiter in 2010 was CGI. It's one of the earliest examples. I preferred the artworked Jupiter in 2001. The depiction of the monolith multiplying and consuming Jupiter was very cartoony.
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Agreed. Its amazing how early CGI has not "aged" well. Now it would look rather spectacular, then it worked. The best example is from one of my all time favourite fun films, The last Star fighter. The CGI looks very ordinary. They were clever with it in TRON as it was meant to look Arcade game like so is "believable" for what it is.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:36 AM   #13
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I think the interesting thing about Tron was that a lot more of it was done with traditional drawn animation than was claimed. Other notable examples of early cgi were the starfields in Star Trek II: TWOK and the conversion of the planetoid by the Genesis device.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:13 AM   #14
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I recall watching the special features material about how long it took them to paint the luminous material onto the people. A clever mixture of real life and cg that people are beginning to return to, the live action, models and incredible sets on Batman begins being a good example.
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(cough)Casino Royale(cough).
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:40 PM   #16
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Well, I've just watched Blade Runner. Very cool. It will grow on me quickly I think. The future is a very grubby place. Most satisfying. Harrison Ford must be one of the most beaten up men on screen.
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Returning to the Arthur C Clarke flavour of the thread, I see that a version of "Rendezvous With Rama" is in pre-production. This could be very good or very bad.
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Really? That book has always intrigued me with the vivid descriptions of the inside of the ship. I agree, if it's done right, this could be an awesome movie. Do we know which actors have been selected?
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After reading DX's post, I looked it up on IMDB:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134933/

Apparently Morgan Freeman is in it. I wonder if they can make a good job on Rama. It sure will be interesting to see.
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The Rama series are my favourite sci-fi novels by far! I sincerely hope they don't H***y***d it up...
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